Justin Pleco recording (many photos)

justin · Post by **justin** » 04 Aug 2006, 13:42

Tank:165CM*45CM*60CM

pleco*20

Paracheirodon axelrodi*100

Hemigrammus rhodostomus*10

Papiliochromis ramirezi*1

Discus*1

On July 15 photographs

01.L128

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05.L128Â¡BL253

06.L253

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09.L133

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11.L191(Colombian)

12.L27Â¡BL191

13.L24

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15.L24Â¡BL253

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17.L24Â¡BL27Â¡BL128Â¡BL133Â¡BL253

18.L24Â¡BL27Â¡BL128Â¡BL133Â¡BL191Â¡BL253Â¡BL600

19.L24Â¡BL27Â¡BL128Â¡BL133Â¡BL191Â¡BL253Â¡BL600

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25.My pleco food

26.My pleco food

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justin · Post by **justin** » 04 Aug 2006, 13:42

On August 1 photographs

31.L191(Peru)

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33.L27C

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37.L95

38.L600

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40.L24

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Reginator · Post by **Reginator** » 04 Aug 2006, 14:58

Nice photos! Although the tank looks a little overpopulated to me, and would maybe benefit from some kind of substrate

Anyway, you have some lovely fish there, take good care of 'em!

Tuti · Post by **Tuti** » 04 Aug 2006, 15:21

Very good pictures from beautiful catfishes.

But on the other hand: I think you should create much more hiding places for the cats, and I think the tank is a little bit over-populated.

redzebra24 · Post by **redzebra24** » 04 Aug 2006, 17:13

what size is that?

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 04 Aug 2006, 17:18

redzebra: you mean the size of the tank? 165cm => 66", 45cm = 18", 60cm = 24". Volume = 445 liter -> 117 US gallon (or around 98 imp. gallon).

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Mats

redzebra24 · Post by **redzebra24** » 05 Aug 2006, 00:00

thanks mats i didnt see that up there

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 14 Aug 2006, 04:35

Awesome fishes... A bit crowded IMHO, but still impressive.

Just a couple suggestions... I think some substrate would make the whole tank and the fishes look better, and some extra hiding spots are not a bad idea.

Oh, I'd put some caves for the L-24 plecos to hide and maybe breed.

Best regards.

Daniel.

justin · Post by **justin** » 15 Aug 2006, 01:29

My new fish(Megalancistrus cf. barraeÂ¡B32cm)

Purchases the second day photograph

Tank:55*55*50(cm)

justin · Post by **justin** » 15 Aug 2006, 01:46

Thanks everybody the suggestion, my English is not very good, cannot share more writing or the explanation, the following is writes (Chinese with the network translation software to turn English).

In the Asian area (for instance Taiwan, Hong Kong), such raising way is ordinary, I raise PLECO approximately 7-8 year, they are peace also are not shy.

Suitable provides Shen Mu is good, but we knew PLECO has protects the domain the behavior, if provides excessively many Shen wooden instead them to be able to protect the domain to have the battle behavior occurrence, also easy to hide the whereabouts or the shy nearness.

My master cylinder (165CM*45CM*60CM) inside biggest fish is 40CM L24*3, they need the movement the space, if all is small foot Â¦T PLECO, I agreed again increases the Shen wood, but inside has large size Â¦T PLECO, the increase closes the thing is not a great idea.

elexis99 · Post by **elexis99** » 15 Aug 2006, 02:35

Wow!! Thats some amazing picks. I would try a dark gravel for the substrate, i think the fish you have (rams, glowlight, neons, discus and plecs) would colour up brighter with the feeling of security the gravel would give. IMO the more natural the tank to the species the happier the fish.

elexis99 · Post by **elexis99** » 15 Aug 2006, 02:37

Sorry looking at the photos again they are rummy nose and cardinals lol.

Deb · Post by **Deb** » 15 Aug 2006, 04:09

Justin, I think I know what you're trying to say. The bare bottom tank is the usual way to raise plecos in your area, and you think you have plenty of wood to accommodate territorial behavior.

Even so, for the long term, your tank is overcrowded. One discus will not be happy in that size tank with no cover, and all those large catfish will foul the water daily.

Still, it's an impressive line-up of fish, as was said, and the detailed photos are wonderful.
Good luck with them!

Deborah

justin · Post by **justin** » 04 Sep 2006, 11:20

2006/9/3 photographs

Buys newly filter(EHEIM 2080)(1700 L/hr)Â¡C

pepper- · Post by **pepper-** » 04 Sep 2006, 16:47

I've got to admit i'm actually quite jealous after seeing all those plecs. I really like numbers 01, 09, and 11 i'd keep them if i could find any especially number 11.
LFS in leicester don't have that many plecs well if they do, they sell fast.

I agree with what someone said before about it seeming overcrowded and there not being any substrate. (No offense intended)

Mike_Noren · Post by **Mike_Noren** » 04 Sep 2006, 17:41

I think that your L253 is possibly the most handsome catfish I've ever seen.

matthi22004 · Post by **matthi22004** » 09 Sep 2006, 19:15

those are some nice catfish

StiffMeister · Post by **StiffMeister** » 09 Sep 2006, 20:50

very very nice collection. its not overcrowded at all imo. perfect pleco tank bro

ZachPaul · Post by **ZachPaul** » 09 Sep 2006, 22:20

wow, thats art right there.

big $$$ spent forsure. those plecos ernt cheep.

and im not gonna touch the discus in price.

Cristoffer Forssander · Post by **Cristoffer Forssander** » 09 Sep 2006, 22:46

[img]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/ ... G_0618.jpg

This is a typical Swedish catfish aquarium - you can't see a single fish..

But they are breeding and are happy!

Nice cats and big ones!

Cheers![/img]

Cristoffer Forssander · Post by **Cristoffer Forssander** » 09 Sep 2006, 22:48

Ops!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/ ... G_0618.jpg

StiffMeister · Post by **StiffMeister** » 10 Sep 2006, 08:50

Justin, how big is the L95? Did yours start with L152 coloration as well or did you buy him with this coloration?
Can you post some more pics of that fish plz?

@ Cristoffer, what does that pic have to do with this thread?

Line · Post by **Line** » 10 Sep 2006, 12:33

Hi

Beautifull Catfishes. I must admit, they look great and healthy.

Nevertheless I don't like the setup - and I don't like the tank at all.
"Overcrowded" is a too nice way to put it !

Regards
Line

StiffMeister · Post by **StiffMeister** » 10 Sep 2006, 17:44

you mean overcrowded maybe from an ethical point of view...

worldwide73 · Post by **worldwide73** » 10 Sep 2006, 19:16

They all look happy and healthy to me. The bottom of the tank is really clean too. I have a tough time keeping my fry tank bottoms that clean. It is definately on the overcrowded side though.

Brantley

Line · Post by **Line** » 10 Sep 2006, 21:38

I mean overcrowded in every point of view !

Regards
Line

chupapiedras · Post by **chupapiedras** » 10 Sep 2006, 22:49

AS I kept scrollin down on the pics I kept thinking that it look like a discus tank, then I saw the photo with the discus. If he is keeping the tank as a discus keeper should(daily water changes in a barebottom tank), then it is not overcrowded in the bio mass department. However, it is overcrowded when regarding space, territory and the lack of places for the plecos. On the other hand I don't see any injured or unhealthy fish so its kind of hard to argue of improperr husbandry.
BTW, discus prefer the company of a school!

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » 11 Sep 2006, 00:06

Maybe not overcrowded in terms of filtration, water changes and water volume...but in terms of the territorial requirements of the fish, and general "comfort zone" then yes its definently crowded. Mixing carnivorous and hebivorous fish is more of a worry to me though. Whats to stop those large Panaques from getting too much protein in their diet? Or vice versa with the large Pseudacanthicus?

When I see large plecs like that, it always makes me wonder what they could be doing in the wild...Like producing babies for instance. Its unlikely such large specimens are imported for captive breeding programs when you see them in tanks like this all the time.
Shaun

ronsterrc · Post by **ronsterrc** » 14 Sep 2006, 07:29

I see the subject of overcrowding arises again. I was very much in the same school of thought whereby you had to have 1 plec per 2 foot of tank at least. But having seen a friend of mine that had MANY (ie more than 10) plecs in a 3 foot, and how they interacted with each other givin the right amount of decorative cover, i too bought loads of plecs for my tank. Now i get to actually see my plecs and not once every fortnight.

justin · Post by **justin** » 15 Sep 2006, 15:36

StiffMeister

My L95 approximately 18-20CM (not including trailing), in more than four years in front of, I once has read a network article, inside writes L152 was the L95 juvenile fish.

In this year, Taiwan has the L95 juvenile fish (bodily approximately 10CM), may obvious look their sixth branch after is likely L95, the adult fish, they have the blue color dorsal fin, the pectoral fin, the ventral fin, with brings the orange color dorsal fin and the caudal fin slightly.

I have looked at L152 and L95(10CM) am the different fish, although their outward appearance is similar, but the color difference are very many, can the obvious distinction.