Is this a Leopard pleco?

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 11 Jul 2006, 07:22

I got this pleco yesterday and the lfs says it's an Leopard,is that correct?

Post by **Silurus** » 11 Jul 2006, 11:02

It's just an attractively patterned version of this.

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 11 Jul 2006, 11:19

So you say that this is just an comon pleco,are you sure?
Will a picture of the side of the pleco help on 100% Id?

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 11 Jul 2006, 14:10

I'd say that the ID is correct as Silurus states. He's seen pictures of more than a few. As he says, it's a nice looking one...

--
Mats

KathyM · Post by **KathyM** » 11 Jul 2006, 14:14

He's lovely! Congratulations!

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 11 Jul 2006, 15:02

I didn't say that Silurus is wrong on the ID.Most likely he knows about plecos 1000times more than me

Is just that i have 3 other sites that says it might be another pleco.

Hey KathyM...i think i know you from somewhere

Post by **Silurus** » 11 Jul 2006, 17:23

We can verify what it is if you have a picture of the dorsal fin.

KathyM · Post by **KathyM** » 11 Jul 2006, 18:24

robby1619 wrote:Hey KathyM...i think i know you from somewhere

Mwahahahaha! Moi?

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 11 Jul 2006, 18:54

Okey i will try to get some photos later on.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 12 Jul 2006, 01:56

Robby,

I really think it's a nicely patterned "normal pleco" (well, they're not the normal around here, that is Hypostomus plecostomus/ H. punctatus). Here's a not-so-good pic of my Pseudacanthicus leopardus "Roraima", LDA-07:

Best regards.

Daniel.

Post by **Janne** » 12 Jul 2006, 20:31

The first 3 pictures is not the same species as your last pic, the last pic shows L114 Pseudacanthicus leopardus.

Janne

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 12 Jul 2006, 20:48

Janne wrote:The first 3 pictures is not the same species as your last pic, the last pic shows L114 Pseudacanthicus leopardus.

Janne

The poster isn't the same - read the posts - and the last post from Daniel shows a different fish for no apparent reason?

I'm not 100% sure this isn't one of the mutty farm raised . I agree we need more pictures.

Jools

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 12 Jul 2006, 22:13

In G joselimaianus the red pattern is made of spots and blobs that aren't 'connected'; in a gibbiceps it's a lacy network overlaying the brown color and in a 'common' pardalis it's a wriggly pattern mixed with the brown wich is also a wriggly pattern.
I think HH is smack on the money here.

zenyfish · Post by **zenyfish** » 12 Jul 2006, 23:02

Jools wrote: The poster isn't the same - read the posts - and the last post from Daniel shows a different fish for no apparent reason?

I think Daniels is showing a pic of what generally is referred to as a "Leopard pleco" and how it's different from the pic robby1619 is showing.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 12 Jul 2006, 23:06

zenyfish wrote:
Jools wrote: The poster isn't the same - read the posts - and the last post from Daniel shows a different fish for no apparent reason?
I think Daniels is showing a pic of what generally is referred to as a "Leopard pl*co" and how it's different from the pic robby is showing.

Yes... That's the reason. I wanted to show the fish usually called "leopard pleco". I think I should have writen it on my first post to make it clear...

Best regards.

Daniel.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 12 Jul 2006, 23:17

Ah, right, sorry, didn't get that. Got it now!

Jools

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 13 Jul 2006, 17:30

Okey guys here are some pics of him.
I had to remove everything in my tank to get this guy ,but then i did some gravel cleaning and so on since i had to take out everything from the tank.
No screaming if iam holding the pleco wrong..i have never hold a pleco in my life ..just wanted to show you the pleco so as to get the id correct this time.

I hope this is okey because iam not taken everything out of the tank again

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 13 Jul 2006, 18:25

Hi!

it could be a Glyptoperichtys xinguensis

Cheers
Yann

pureplecs · Post by **pureplecs** » 15 Jul 2006, 00:18

Could it be simular to this....

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... ge_id=7663

Glyptoperichthys parnaibae???[/url]

Post by **Janne** » 15 Jul 2006, 08:35

The first 3 pictures is not the same species as your last pic, the last pic shows L114 Pseudacanthicus leopardus.

Janne

The poster isn't the same - read the posts - and the last post from Daniel shows a different fish for no apparent reason?

Sorry, I was reading the post's to quickly.

Could it be simular to this....
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... ge_id=7663
Glyptoperichthys parnaibae???

I think pureplecs have find your species.

Janne

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 15 Jul 2006, 08:54

yannfulliquet wrote:Hi!

it could be a Glyptoperichtys xinguensis

Cheers
Yann

Yann,

Have you got a picture for these, I thought they were more like G. gibbiceps. In terms of import patterns, it's more likely to be G. lituratus.

Jools

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 15 Jul 2006, 10:28

I think Pureplecs has found the Answer!!
Thank you

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 15 Jul 2006, 10:30

robby1619 wrote:I think Pureplecs has found the Answer!!
Thank you

Pureplecs,

How do you tell the difference between G. lituratus and G. parnaibae?
AFAIK, the pictured fish is similar to several species (mentioned above). I mean, we don't even know where the fish came from.

Jools

pureplecs · Post by **pureplecs** » 15 Jul 2006, 14:26

Jools, it was more of a question than an answer. And of course you are absolutely correct in your statement of simularity to different sp. and unknown location.

I said...

Could it be simular.... to the parnaibae???

But to answer your question of me, I would say that some differences would have to lie in the dorsal and caudal patterning (which we haven't gotten a realy good look at in Robby's pics) as well as the variation of patterning on the body on the lituratus which appears some have clear patterning in some more than others (perhaps stress could be the factor). Furthermore the lituratus seems to have a different dorsal shape.

Robby, If you could get some side pictures of the dorsal (per Silurus) and caudal it may be helpful.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 15 Jul 2006, 14:59

I really think some info on the collecting site could help us here... Especially when we realize that G. parnaibae is a not-so-common species in the hobby. Both specimens I had, including the one pictured now in cat e-log, were wild-caught in the ParnaÃba River Basin.

Best regards.

Daniel.

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 15 Jul 2006, 17:40

pureplecs wrote: Robby, If you could get some side pictures of the dorsal (per Silurus) and caudal it may be helpful.

This picture is not of the Dorsal

pureplecs · Post by **pureplecs** » 15 Jul 2006, 18:26

That picture is showing a good pic of the "caudal"... are you able to get a pic of the dorsal??? And find out a collection point???

P.S.
A nice link to show anatomy...
http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/anato ... alPeduncle

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 15 Jul 2006, 18:35

If you go back to page 1 and see my first pics..thoesn't those show it?

pureplecs · Post by **pureplecs** » 15 Jul 2006, 18:47

Not really Robby my friend, though were good birds eye view shots. A side pic with dorsal extended would be much much more helpful.

robby1619 · Post by **robby1619** » 15 Jul 2006, 22:14

Okey then..i will try to get pics of him tomorrow.