ID of SA "ripsaw" catfish - more pics

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 01 May 2006, 19:56

Hi all.

Long time no see...

Can someone ID my ripsaw catfish? Comes from the amazon basin, is all I know for sure. It's an awesome cat too.

Juvenile specimen:

My specimen, from the same batch:

Any thoughts?

Best regards.

Daniel.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 01 May 2006, 20:04

Hi Daniel,
Surely you already knew it's from the Doradidae family. My guess would be young Anadoras grypus, but I'm not 100% sure.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 01 May 2006, 20:18

Marc,

The only thing I know for sure is that it's a Doradid. It looks like the drawings I've seen of Megalodoras francisci, BTW, but I'm just guessing...

Best regards.

Daniel.

Post by **Silurus** » 01 May 2006, 21:09

I think you meant Franciscodoras marmoratus, and while I agree that it looks very close to Franciscodoras (Anadoras has a shorter adipose fin), that genus is only known from the Rio SÃ£o Francisco basin.

Post by **Silurus** » 01 May 2006, 21:19

From the shape of the humeral process, I suspect you have a juvenile Hypodoras forficulatus.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 02 May 2006, 05:03

Maybe it is... But it's 6" long already. Bigger than Hypodoras forficulatus according to the cat-e-log. Gonna confirm the right origin with the lfs. The employee said "amazon", but who knows... Could be from SÃ£o Francisco Basin too.

Best regards.

Daniel.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 25 May 2006, 04:24

Couldn't find out the exact origin of the fish, but here goes another pic of it, after the adaptation period:

Best regards.

Daniel.

Post by **corybreed** » 25 May 2006, 12:21

Daniel,

Very nice fish. We do not see many unusual Doradidae here in the States.

Mark

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 30 May 2006, 04:51

One more pic...

Best regards.

Daniel.

Post by **Silurus** » 30 May 2006, 09:41

Looks more like Franciscodoras now.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 30 May 2006, 16:29

Silurus,

I think the LFS employee gave me wrong info... These fishes came from a distributor/wholesaler in SE Brazil. They just assumed it's from the North/Amazon, but they are probably collected locally. I'll keep you updated, to make it easier to ID. My cat is a real PIG...

Best regards.

Daniel.

Mika · Post by **Mika** » 30 May 2006, 17:01

My cat is a real PIG...

..and it looks like one too

You should see my pair of Pterodoras granulosus after they have had whole banana for meal.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 05 Jun 2006, 19:54

A few more pics...

What do you think?

Best regards.

Daniel.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 23 Jun 2006, 00:44

One more... Taken at night.

Best regards.

Daniel.

LimaShovel · Post by **LimaShovel** » 24 Jun 2006, 00:41

looks kind of creepy. but I think its what silurus said.

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 06 Jul 2006, 23:24

No more thoughts?

Best regards.

Daniel.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 09 Jul 2006, 16:09

We should really add this to the catelog you know, it's not a species we have and I'd be tempted now to call it Franciscodoras...

Jools

Daniel Machado · Post by **Daniel Machado** » 12 Jul 2006, 01:41

Jools,

It got nicer after it settled down, didn't it? Gonna send you the pics ASAP.

Best regards.

Daniel.