L162?

Azmeaiel · Post by **Azmeaiel** » 02 May 2006, 05:56

I ordered a fish and was expecting a l162.

it looks a little different to the pics in the cat-elog

there were two in the tank, a female with very black/white markings and this fellow with light yellow/black. He is stressed and a little dark in the photo.

gemjunkie · Post by **gemjunkie** » 02 May 2006, 07:07

Can you get a bit clearer pic? Looks like a L199 to me...

Azmeaiel · Post by **Azmeaiel** » 02 May 2006, 07:41

here is one a few hours later. Unfortunatley not much better as he is very skittish.

Will upload something better when I get a clear shot.

thanks for the suggestion, will look it up.

Post by **Janne** » 02 May 2006, 08:06

If the origin is Colombia it's L52 and if it was exported from Brasil L168, they can be hard to distinguish at small sizes.

Janne

gemjunkie · Post by **gemjunkie** » 02 May 2006, 08:28

With the new pic, I'd have to agree with the L52 rather than L199. I've had both but I am FAR from an expert.

Azmeaiel · Post by **Azmeaiel** » 02 May 2006, 08:38

Thankyou. I would guess from the images it is the L168 (also a recent import into Aus), all the individuals I have seen come in seem to have the more regular stripes of these . thanks for the help.

fishiechris · Post by **fishiechris** » 02 May 2006, 10:20

not a leopard frog pleco is it?

ndoboi · Post by **ndoboi** » 02 May 2006, 10:58

My guess is L52. Check out this thread for some really good comments from Shane.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... light=l168

A boy and a girl - sure hope you bought them both!

Cheers
Steve

Azmeaiel · Post by **Azmeaiel** » 02 May 2006, 12:33

I am still wondering about the pekolita pulcher sp? ref from the wholesaler. the image of the fish was righ, the common name wrong, has this scientific name been changed?

Post by **Shane** » 02 May 2006, 13:18

I am still wondering about the pekolita pulcher sp? ref from the wholesaler.

For reasons I will never understand, P. pulcher is used by exporters throughout South America to basically identfy any small loricariid with stripes.
-Shane

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 02 May 2006, 13:21

Tbe label "Peckoltia pulcher" is no longer valid, the new name is "Dekeyseria pulcher", which is obviously a relative of the L52/L168. Cat-eLog doesn't have an entry for Dekeyseria pulcher - I don't know why, perhaps they are not common in the trade.

Edit: I just saw Shane's explanation - and his explanation is probably better than mine - I also agree that they should not call everything with stripes P. pulcher...

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Mats

Azmeaiel · Post by **Azmeaiel** » 02 May 2006, 13:49

It would explain how they got them through customs (read the thread provided) Thanks for the info. Its very confusing how we have several different fish under this name and also labelled 'clown pleco'. From what I have seen, some are panaque maccus, some L52/L168 and some others are an odd brown fish (these are the first I saw labelled as clown pleco) with very thin if any stripes.

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 02 May 2006, 14:47

Clown pleco SHOULD be , but some similar species (such as are also (almost correctly) labeled clown pleco. I've bought two in local shop, they were also labeled Clown pleco - which is obviously NOT correct.

And I think in Australia it's even more likely to be confused, because a fish that is not too distant in looks, can be renamed to one that is allowed for import. This is obviously breaking the law in detail, but I suppose you could see it as "bending the law" at least if we look at different species of Dekeyseria that are quite likely that they are all the same level of threat to the environment, whether they come from Brazil or Colombia...

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Mats