L204

toddnbecka · Post by **toddnbecka** » 23 Jan 2006, 06:32

I checked the cat-elog, but I'm not sure I read the pH correctly. Would L204 tolerate/thrive in hard alkaline water, pH 8.2?

husky_jim · Post by **husky_jim** » 23 Jan 2006, 06:58

toddnbecka wrote:I checked the cat-elog, but I'm not sure I read the pH correctly. Would L204 tolerate/thrive in hard alkaline water, pH 8.2?

A PH reading of 8,2 is not suitable for most of the loricariids.I wouldn't suggest keeping him above 7,4-7,6.

O_o · Post by **O_o** » 23 Jan 2006, 09:00

Hello i keep mine in ph 8 and hes doing fine, the e-cat-log is correct. Theres an exception to every rule ya know. With that said just make it a slow transition from whatever ph it is now. I really wanted to add it to my Tangangikan tank but im sure the leleupi's would rock its word.

husky_jim · Post by **husky_jim** » 23 Jan 2006, 09:54

O_o wrote:Hello i keep mine in ph 8 and hes doing fine, the e-cat-log is correct. Theres an exception to every rule ya know. With that said just make it a slow transition from whatever ph it is now. I really wanted to add it to my Tangangikan tank but im sure the leleupi's would rock its word.

I agree with you "O_o" that a fish may live in such an environment,but is it nice to keep a living organizm in conditions that would never appear in it's own ecosystem?

Post by **Barbie** » 23 Jan 2006, 16:22

If you check the Cat-elog entry for this particular fish, you'll find that the higher pH IS natural for his ecosystem. IMO, pH is also one of the things that people focus on, when it's truly the least of their worries. Good clean water, appropriate oxygen levels, and good filtration rank much higher on my list of "musts" than exactly matching the pH. My fish are happy enough to spawn regularly, even at a higher pH than what anyone would consider ideal. Blackwater species aren't as forgiving, but many other species ARE if properly acclimated and maintained. Just my experience though, for what it's worth ;).

Barbie

Jackster · Post by **Jackster** » 23 Jan 2006, 18:14

I have always kept various plecos in my rock hard tap water (8.3PH, 24 dh GH, 12 dh KH).
I would agree that some species would be very stressed and probably die but
most of the species I've had did very well.

L190
L200
L018
L034
L014
L010a
L027
L001
L066
L046 (had just 1 but it lived for a long time)

One that did not do well was L047.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 23 Jan 2006, 19:42

If you check page 167 of Ever's and Seidel's Catfish Atlas 1, the following data was collected on a trip to the Rio San Alejandro (home of L204) on Sept 25th 1995.

Water type: White, slightly turbid, shallow, swiftly moving.
pH 8.4
Conductivity 190μS/cm
Temp 30 deg C

Waldo · Post by **Waldo** » 25 Jan 2006, 03:49

Barbie is right. while being held in peru our fish are in a pH of 6.6 give or take a few. when we import them they are not acclimated... they are dumped into a pH of 7.6 and do fine.

If you have fish worry less about having there native pH/dh and worry more about clean water. parameters are constantly fluctuating in the wild.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 25 Jan 2006, 05:36

Southern California. Tap water=liquid rock. Enough said. ;).

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