New look

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 31 Oct 2005, 12:43

Jools wrote:Mats,

That doesn't make sense to me, newspaper logos are centered! Anyway, the reason for centering is it looks better and, moreover, it means you mouse travels less.

Anyway, I'm reading that it must go back to the left...

Jools

I'm fine with having the menu/logos etc in the middle, and subjects of the forums is fine too. Just the centered text in the forum posts that I'm objecting to. As some people write long posts, and others just a few words, it gets a bit messy when centered, because the left edge of the contents jumps about... Demo:

A short sentence here.
Followed by a much longer, extended sentence with lots and lots of words in it, making it very long, you'll soon see what I mean, especially if you use a big monitor to view this post. Some more text to fill it out here... Blah blah, blah, blah.

Just like newspapers have the TITLE of the paper in the center, the titles etc on the site are fine to be in the middle, but I'm pretty sure that besides from books with poems or such, you don't find much printed "text for reading" that is centered...

Also annoying is the "single word or two" in the middle, following a long sentence/paragraph.

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Mats

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 31 Oct 2005, 14:30

MatsP wrote:Just the centered text in the forum posts that I'm objecting to.

Hang on, there's something seriously wrong here, the forum posts text isn't meant to be centered! I've just checked MSIE and it is centering text - I didn't realise! I will look into this immediately.

Jools

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 31 Oct 2005, 14:59

Ok, so that's a BUG, not a feature... Ok. Looking forward to it being fixed.

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Mats

mummymonkey · Post by **mummymonkey** » 31 Oct 2005, 16:15

MatsP wrote:Ok, so that's a BUG, not a feature... Ok. Looking forward to it being fixed.

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Mats

Ditto.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 31 Oct 2005, 17:22

Missing < table > tag which caused MSIE to decide to ignore the next tag which was the one after the centered nav bar that switched off the centering. Took me bloomin ages to find it!

Anyway, now we have it as I intended. Sorry, it must have been crap for you guys!

Jools

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 31 Oct 2005, 18:30

something else is bugged as well; the purple link on top of the forum, to the index is fine.

the one below however "scrumbled up" into something like:
Planet
Catfish
Forum
Index ->
Site
Suggestions
and Bugs

this is not intended I think; a link oriented vertically is quite annoying when we all are used to links that are shaped like horizontal bars.....

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 31 Oct 2005, 18:45

Working on it...

Jools

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 31 Oct 2005, 19:12

Finished now.

Jools

mummymonkey · Post by **mummymonkey** » 31 Oct 2005, 19:18

Jools wrote:Anyway, now we have it as I intended. Sorry, it must have been crap for you guys!

Jools

Thanks Jools; that's a whole lot better.

Walter · Post by **Walter** » 31 Oct 2005, 23:01

ThankÂ´s for "align left" ...

FuglyDragon · Post by **FuglyDragon** » 01 Nov 2005, 02:44

Like the new look logos & nav bar. Good job

fishypoo2 · Post by **fishypoo2** » 01 Nov 2005, 04:38

I'll second that, I liked the old way too, but this is refreshing.

Fish Soup · Post by **Fish Soup** » 01 Nov 2005, 06:06

Didn't say anything last time, but glad to see the text back to a left alignment rather than centered. IMO easier to read. Nav bar is great.

Don

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 01 Nov 2005, 08:58

Jools wrote:Missing < table > tag which caused MSIE to decide to ignore the next tag which was the one after the centered nav bar that switched off the centering. Took me bloomin ages to find it!

Anyway, now we have it as I intended. Sorry, it must have been crap for you guys!

Jools

No worries. As long as it's getting fixed, and we're not disagreeing on the formatting for the actual text content, I'm happy... I make mistakes programming, and I don't expect anyone else to be perfect. Especially since you have to combat a number of different implementations of browsers (on a number of different platforms).

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Mats

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 01 Nov 2005, 13:13

The centered text was a mistake experienced by most internet explorer users. I didn't spot it until I was told (as I use firefox most of the time).

Jools

Phathead6669 · Post by **Phathead6669** » 01 Nov 2005, 13:36

Ya I was kinda wondering what the whole centered text was about. Now I know.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 01 Nov 2005, 15:16

FuglyDragon wrote:Like the new look logos & nav bar. Good job

Thanks, I've merged your topic into this one as they are about the same thing.

Jools

snowball · Post by **snowball** » 02 Nov 2005, 00:39

just a minor suggestion, but why don't you move the 'forum search' tab up to next to the 'search' & 'forum' links? If only for the benefit of idiots like me who did a couple of regular searches and wondered why no forum threads were returned

And while I'm nit-picking, could you make the PlanetCatfish logo a hyperlink back to the main home page, same as the 'home' link beneath?

cheers!

Post by **Silurus** » 02 Nov 2005, 18:00

The new logo is interesting, but two plecos and a syno don't quite convey catfish diversity.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 02 Nov 2005, 18:09

I like the black bar on top of the main page!
less white, more black. better for my eyes, much more comfy to watch

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 02 Nov 2005, 20:04

Silurus wrote:The new logo is interesting, but two pl*cos and a syno don't quite convey catfish diversity.

Don't worry there are more families on the way. Also, the random image thing will work better with a larger pool to work from.

Jools

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 04 Nov 2005, 23:52

another thing; now suddenly the links on top (below "Planetcatfish" and goooooooogle-ad) have been re-arranged.

now there's suddenly a horizontal scrollbar below, wich realy doesn't make sense at 1024x768; because I can scroll from left to right about 1mm (yes, I took a measure)

I'm sure this wasn't aimed at, but it's a bit useless.
if the whole nav-bar slips to the left for that single mm, the scrollbar will disappear.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 05 Nov 2005, 17:59

snowball wrote:just a minor suggestion, but why don't you move the 'forum search' tab up to next to the 'search' & 'forum' links? If only for the benefit of idiots like me who did a couple of regular searches and wondered why no forum threads were returned

I don't like that idea because it confuses the user at the start. Also, forum specific functions like the forum search should only appear on the forum (lower) nav bar. I've changed the site search page however - it now explains the two search pages ABOVE the search box making it harder to ignore than its previous, lower, position.

snowball wrote:And while I'm nit-picking, could you make the PlanetCatfish logo a hyperlink back to the main home page, same as the 'home' link beneath?

Done.

Jools

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 05 Nov 2005, 18:01

sidguppy wrote:now there's suddenly a horizontal scrollbar below, wich realy doesn't make sense at 1024x768; because I can scroll from left to right about 1mm

Another internet explorer "feature" it should be fixed now.

Really Sid I'm surprised at you using the "big mac" of internet browsers - I thought you'd be using firefox, maybe you can't download it on Mars!

Jools

Post by **Dinyar** » 06 Nov 2005, 06:15

Jools wrote:Really Sid I'm surprised at you using the "big mac" of internet browsers - I thought you'd be using firefox

Ya Sid, I mean talk about people who live like sheep and all... I mean, like, really!

After we succced in getting you to use a real browser, we'll have to work on getting Jools to get a real computer. The infamous Big Mac he was referring to...

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 06 Nov 2005, 07:23

He he, very good.

Jools

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 06 Nov 2005, 11:10

I AM using firefox, you bunch o' dummies

the horizontal bar is now gone, so whatever it was you did HAd an effect on Firefox as well; my version is 1.0.7., and I'm anticipating 1.5 wich should be pretty good.

I leave the testing and debugging to my friends who are busy teaching me LINUX, so in fact my Microbotch days are numbered

If you really thought I'd be fooling around with Internet Exploder....

I do not underestimate the Dark Side of the Force!

btw Dinyar I DO like Macs, unfortunately my paycheck can't handle one!
if I want to buy a Mac that can do exactly the stuff wich my PC does now (that would be one of those big 5-ers wich cost here about 4500-5500E); I have to stop eating or paying the rent for a year or so.....in case you didn't know, I get a fee, sort of, it isn't even remotely resembling a proper salary

Post by **Dinyar** » 06 Nov 2005, 18:06

Well that's good news about your turning from a Sheep into a Fox, Sid. Today the browser, tomorrow the OS! Then no one will be freaked by those strange error messages in your forum sig!

As you know, Freedom has its price. But Rusty has a bunch of old Macs under his bed. I"m sure he'd be happy to trade you an old Mac for one of your old Grannies...

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 06 Nov 2005, 21:11

Jools wrote: I thought you'd be using firefox

Thanks for the link Jools; I've downloaded it and will soon find out if it's better than I.E.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 06 Nov 2005, 23:53

Today the Browser? been using it for years; first Mozilla-browsers, then Phoenix, then Firebird, now Firefox......

I also use Thunderbird instead of Outlook for emailclient, also a much better alternative, very safe.

FF IS a much better browser than IE and it definitely protects the PC against a lot of spyware and pop-ups.
unfotunately it's getting very popular, so there's peeps writing spyware, popups and all kind of nasties for firefox as well.

but compared to IE it's a world apart.

btw I got a spawning pair o' granny's no way in Hell I'm gonna trade those for anything. internet is fun, but live fish overrule the PC world on ALL accounts; all this stuff is just "fringe benefits"; it's the live catfishes that is the REAL thing

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