My zebra tank setup

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Post by Shane »

hands up, who else didn't know that?
I consider myself fairly worldly having visited around 30 plus countries and lived outside the US for over 10 years in Europe, the Middle East and Latin America. I will admit that I did not know this either until a Nederlander made the same comments to me a few years ago. I always wondered if most US immigrants from the Netherlands were from Holland and so Holland became synonymous with the Netherlands in US English. But you are European and have no excuse :wink:
OK, I will cover my head and duck out before taking my well deserved off-topic beating.
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Post by PC Hasselgreen »

I just need to make a point. Why would a few degrees hurt a H.zebra? Rivers realy change fast some times, and they change a lot!

If its so extreme 2 degrees makes a diff for a zebra in the first place... FIX IT!

If you believe that your water is good - go ahead....

Mine bread by accident in my Malawi setup. BUT that wasent far as extreme as the water mentioned in this thread.


If i had water like that i would be king of (some)livebearers i hope.


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On topic:
I have had slate in many tanks wich also contained bogwood (you might add bogwood in the Zebra setup! really recommended), and never had any pH issues; if you want the pH on the lower side, put some peatgranules in your filter, and it'll stay nice and low.

leaves on the floor of the tank also add to those waterparameters, and if you get baby zebra's they have something to chew on.
Oak and Beech are the best.

off-topic: Shane, you hit the nail on the head: most USA-citicens with Dutch roots are from North Western Netherlands aka Holland.

they're protestant/Calvinist or Lutheranian from origin (mainly Calvinists) from wich a whole branching out of 'protestant-based' christian variety of churches have spawned. they were seeking for both oppertunity and also 'escaping' from the Neherlands wich were turning too 'liberal' and not serious enough on the religious issue.
some stayed here, as a result we have a load of very small villages wich are quite severe on the church issue.
In the US their descendants were quite more succesfull, I believe :wink:

The south were I come from -and still live- is very much like Belgium; actually we should have been Belgians but during the Dutch-Belgian war (in wich the country of Begium was created) we sort of 'fell on the wrong side' of the border that was drawn by other countries.
In fact Belgium was 'almost' created to separate the Hollanders and the French :roll: too many wars here :roll:

Now back to the Zebra plecs!
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Post by racoll »

It's not just me Sid, I heard the Netherlands refered to as Holland on the BBC today (five live in fact) Now I thought they would know better!
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about 90% of the whole world does, but ah well....
you'd be amazed about the use of "England" when continentals talk about what properly SHOULd be called the UK :wink:

old habits die hard!

perhaps the same thing is in order when people call citizens of the USA Americans, while forgetting that someone born in Canada, Honduras or Chile is also an "American"; America being a place from the Hudson Bay to Terra del Fuego (is this the right spelling? my Spanish is horrible)......

but then Us-ican doesn't sound like anything sensible, does it?
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On Topic (again, SORRY!); how are the Zebra plecs faring in their tank, or do you still need to get a bunch?

about pH, don't forget that pH is NOT a linear scale like Gh or temperature....it's logarythmic.
wich means that a tank with pH 8 is 10 times (!) as alcalic as a tank with pH 7.....it multiplies by 10 every number up.....
and it also gets 10 times as acidic when counting down!
so say that Hypancistrus zebra lives at a pH of 5 (I dunno for sure, just example), then when you keep it at a pH of 8, it is kept at a 1000 times (!!!) more alcalic than it SHOULD be kept.

unlike temperature where 27'C is just 2 degrees too high for a fish preferring 25'C; it is in fact a miracle that many fish adapt to different pH.

it IS a given fact that fish often adapt to other pH, but when you try to breed them at a wrong pH the eggs fungus or the fry dies within days of hatching.

when seriously trying to breed a rare fish like the Zebra plec I'd say that pH is VERY important and tankfurniture should be less important.
otherwise you better just "plain" keep them, but forgo breeding attempts.

this to avoid a long time of disappointment following disappointment.

breeding tanks should be furnitured exactly or as closely as possible to ALL the "wishes" of the fish, NOT the "outside look" or other people's opinions on how a tank should be.

That's why succesful breeding tanks often look weird or crappy, with inert materials (PVC, terracotta pottery, slate etc), but in the filter are the materials wich control waterparameters (crushed shells for Rifttanks, Peatgranules for Blackwatertanks etc).
this because inert furniture can be cleaned and decontaminated easily and materials wich influence waterparameters often do best when placed in the filter instead of "omly" the substrate or so.
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Post by laurab5 »

I plan on keeping them in regular tap and simulating rainy seasons. I will be getting 6-8 babies in early 06, I have decided. The tank will house either baby albino brietlenose or a trio until then
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