spotted, 18cm, with white barbles syno

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 09 Oct 2005, 16:03

Hiya,

it caudal fin has so strange shape because he was badly hurt by cichlids :(. But now he is ok :), I just don't know what species this could be :). This syno is very agressive towards other synos in a tank (tang. synos).

Regards.

Post by **Silurus** » 09 Oct 2005, 16:12

I'm afraid it looks like another hybrid.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 09 Oct 2005, 16:14

What's the history / background to this fish? It looks like a very out of sorts .

Jools

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 09 Oct 2005, 16:25

hmmm that's not good :(.

Well I can only add that this brighter places on his body are scars after oscars teeth :(.

You say thats a hybrid because of his cooper eyes? Or there is something else?

Regards.

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 09 Oct 2005, 16:28

Jools I'm afraid he cannot be any Tanganyikan species since he was rescued from pet shop where he's been kept with big oscars.

In Poland we got ONLY one place where you can buy true tang. synos and only WC ones - and this syno is in this importer tanks now :).

Regards.

Post by **Silurus** » 09 Oct 2005, 16:44

There doesn't appear to be any black on the dorsal fin, which is usually a sign that it's not a wild-caught species.

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 09 Oct 2005, 18:33

hah! Next good advice which can help in recognizing hybrids :D
Thanks a lot guys.

Little ot - I think that this new image system on PC forum is working slower than this old one. Just my personal opinion. I have slow connection and i'm sure that in old version pictures downloaded faster.

Regards.

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » 09 Oct 2005, 18:47

I reckon that#s a hybrid, sorry. Why does it blank out cichlids? What's wrong with them?

-dunc

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 09 Oct 2005, 23:45

uhm don't know if I understood you correctly Duncan :] but oscars were going to ate this poor syno alive, piece by piece. This importer who I wrote about was in a pet shop and rescued this poor catfish :). Now we got two problems. This hybrid is very, very agressive (it's still shy but I don't want to think about that what could happen to all this little s. sp. cf. dhonti "dwarf" which are his tankmates now, once this 18cm monster settle down) and it's a ... hybrid :(.

Thanks again.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 10 Oct 2005, 09:57

worton[pl] wrote:Just my personal opinion. I have slow connection and i'm sure that in old version pictures downloaded faster.

They download at the same speed - we can't control that! The change we made is that the pictures are resized before they are made available for download. The resizing takes a little time, but especially in the case of very large images, you'll get a picture quicker on a slower connection. On average images downloaded faster.

If people post images at 640 pixels wide or smaller then no resizing is carried out. Resized images have a black border, originals do not.

Jools

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 10 Oct 2005, 10:09

Yeah I thought that it could works that way :). I guess that I thought it could works slower because I see all images downloading :). In old version very often I wasn't able to see for example 4 images downloading since they were together too big to display on a screen :). Now when I can see downloading of all images in the same time - it could looks like much looonger than before :) - looks like im impatience :).

But by a little bug in a script you can slow speed of downloading - i'm sure, I failed an exam because of that kind of bug :].

Regards.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 10 Oct 2005, 13:01

Agree on this being another hybrid, I have seen exactly those fish as juveniles, sold as... "NOT granulosus"!
the LFS/importer knew it wasn't the real thing, got them as "F1 granny's" and was aware of the problems caused by ripping off knowing customers.

so he sold them as "NOT granny's" with the warning that it was bred and hence not pure granny.

I also suspect one of the parents WAS a granny, ut the other's been likely a nigrita or something.

I wonder about the persons creating all these horrible mutts....if it's that easy sticking needles into fish and mixing up sperm and eggs; why not go for some more honest trade and mix up both sperm and eggs of granny's?
OK they'll be hormone-bred, but at least true granny's and not this garbage.

BTW Worton; you're going for the ultimate Syno-collection? you're buying Tang-cats by the wagonload......

these hybrids are often very very agressive, it would be a shame if your young Phyllonemus and petricola F1's will be ripped apart by some hybrid from hell......

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 10 Oct 2005, 15:58

Hiya Sid,

Well this hybrid is not mine :). It swims in tank of my friends - ONLY fish importer in Poland who know about tanganican synos :). They got good heart so they take badly hurt hybrid from pet shop.

You got me Sid :) I was going to buy few more synos (s. multipunctatus) to my tank (200l - with all fish from you) but after few suggestions I will first upgrade my existing tank into something about 300l and then buy a group of 5 s. multis to my old 200l tank :) so there will be no overstocking or something :). Don't worry I didn't buy any single fish since this beautiful day I got p. typus, l. brevispinis and s. petricola from you :).
Btw. phyllonemus are growing really nice. The biggest one is around 8cm now :). Sadly one of the 5 you gave me probably is shoked or something - it didn't grow at all :(. He is not skinny or something like that it just don't want to grow but eats like crazy :). This not-growing guy was first fish I put in Q-tank and he was not properly introduced into Q-tank because it jump out of a bag :/ - so I guess something is wrong with his nerves :(.

All photos of tang-cats I showed here were from my importing friends since we are in very good contact :). They write to me about everything interesting about synos they can notice :D - for example they had two kinds of s. dhonti. First group was really small (7-10cm) - and they are prolly a "dwarf" form - they didn't grow at all, second "group" (two fish :)) were around 25cm and were growing like crazy - like riverine species, really, really fast :D.

Regards and sorry for so looong post hehe :).