Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum in 425L tank?

reecord · Post by **reecord** » 05 Jul 2005, 03:05

hallo!

how long can i have a Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum in my 425L tank?

Post by **corybreed** » 05 Jul 2005, 03:25

Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum grows to over three feet in length. Your tank is a little over 100 gallons US. That is too small for a fish of this size. You would need a tank 5 times this size to properly house an adult fish. The width of a tank housing this species is also very important as they do not feel comfortable if their barbels touch the sides of the tank when they swim. If you have not purchased the fish yet I would consider other options.

Mark

reecord · Post by **reecord** » 06 Jul 2005, 15:29

yeas i know it is a big fish butt how long can i have it i in the tank? The reasan wy im wondering is im gona bulid a bigger tank soon.

the cat fish is 15cm when im got it.

and it growes to 100cm

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 06 Jul 2005, 15:37

A fish that grows to 1m will need a tank that is 4m x 2m x 2m. That's 16000 liter of water... That's a substantial amount, and you'll definitely need to think about the foundation in the building where this tank is kept, because you're well beyond "ordinary use" at this sort of size.

Building a tank of that sort of size isn't going to be easy, even if you build it all out of concrete.

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Mats

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 06 Jul 2005, 15:50

here we go again.....

first buying a fish that cannot be kept properly in any house-tank and then the old "but I'm going to build a bigger tank"-argument.

When?

Sorry to say; but we've heard this like a million times before on this very site; it's a bit like flogging a dead horse, so to speak.

better stick to Lima's or Hemisorubims if you like Shovelnoses; definitely more realistic and no worries about those outgrowing a big tank.

Post by **medaka** » 07 Jul 2005, 21:05

By Sidguppy

here we go again.....

reecord. We have been here before, on similar
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... ght=#63130

Do you intend to build this big tank or not? What has happened to the Fossilis's and other occupants of your tank that you have been asking questions on?
Because this isnâ??t the first time you have asked a question on potential large catfish and after being told that they will not go in your aquaria you have stated that you intend to get a bigger tank

We really do want to be friendly with you, because if you donâ??t ask questions you will learn nothing. However!
I have been looking at your other postings, and I appreciate that you have already informed us all that your English is none to good. But you tend to be behaving in a childish manner in the way you phrase your replies to certain answers when posted.
Most of your questions any way can be found via the cat-e-log or in the â??stickysâ?? that are at the top of each forum

reecord · Post by **reecord** » 08 Jul 2005, 14:52

includ manny swedish sites can i have a Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum in a 1000L tank thats wy am asking. why is it so wherd to ask how long i can have it? i mean its rount 15cm when i buy it. and then if i build one biger wats the problem.

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 08 Jul 2005, 15:24

There is OBVIOUSLY no problem keeping a 15cm fish in a 400L tank.

The problem is that this fish will grow, and probably quite quickly, to a size that is NOT suitable for a 400, or a 1000L tank. Anyone saying that this fish is suitable to keep in a 1000L tank either don't know what they are talking about, or are in some other way not understanding fishkeeping properly.

This fish can grow to 1m in length, which is around 6 times the length it has now.

The generally accepted minimum size for fish-tanks is 4L x 2L x 2L, where L is the length of the fish. That's 4m x 2m x 2m, or 16000 liter.

Let's make another maths experiment. If you could buy a 16000 liter tank "ready made", how much would it cost:
In this country, England, an decent size tank with, minimal pumps and lights, costs about 1.00-1.50 GBP per liter, let's average it to 1.25. That's roughly 15 SEK per liter. 15 * 16000 is around 240000.

I'm pretty sure this is slightly oversimplified, so you probably need to look at 300-400K SEK for a custom built tank. Are you prepared to spend that much money for a fish that you want to keep? Do you have the means of getting hold of this money, even if we look at three or four years before it needs it? It will probably need another tank before then, even if it's "only" a standard 1000L or so.

It's relatively easy to keep species that grow up to about half a meter, but anything beyond that becomes increasingly difficult.

Yes, you can keep a fish in anything that is big enough for the fish to fit in some direction, but what's the quality of life for the fish? You wouldn't want to live in a box that is about 50 x 50 x 200 cm, would you?

I'm not attacking you, I'm just trying to explain the difficulties in your theory of "getting a bigger tank" to fit your fish.

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Mats

reecord · Post by **reecord** » 08 Jul 2005, 20:48

thank you thats that iwana to know.