What Hypancistrus

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 13 Feb 2005, 15:00

Hi Guys!

A friend will receive 10 of these.
I have an idea of the possible id but since the fish looks way different of what the exportator has labelled him. Just want you to give me your thoughts on it!!!Just to see if it match my believes!!

Hypancistrus sp

Cheers
Yann

Mika · Post by **Mika** » 13 Feb 2005, 16:13

You think they are L 250? -then woud christmas have arrived early this year to your friend.
I put both pictures here to compare. The original L 250 from DATZ

Yann`s fishes

It seems to me that tail markings and eye colour is different.Not L 250 - something else.

kkorotev · Post by **kkorotev** » 13 Feb 2005, 16:24

Yann,
Here is a similar/identical fish I acquired last fall. It was exported as L173 from the Rio Xingu. It had a few L174 mixed in with it...and the L174 that came in the same shipment had a few of these mixed in.

I am not sure of the correct ID, but currently believe this fish is L236...as is yours?

HOWEVER,
THERE IS A DIFFERENT PATTERN IN THE PECTORAL FIN SPINE OF OUR FISH. THE PATTERN ON YOURS RUNS PARALLEL TO THE SPINE, MINE RUNS PERPENDICULAR TO IT. SMARTER PEOPLE THAN I WILL HAVE TO INTERPRET WHAT THAT MEANS.

Kevin Korotev

Cattleya · Post by **Cattleya** » 13 Feb 2005, 16:49

Hi

the fish looks way different of what the exportator has labelled him

and what the exportator labelled him?

for me loks like L287 L236 .
never like L250.
Greatings Udo

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 13 Feb 2005, 17:44

Hi!

Yes the exportator labelled them as L250. To argument in favor he also said he has Glaser and Japanese importators as customers... but they are clearly not L250 ( the L250 name of the pic was given by the exportator)...

regarding the L236...I ll talk about that later...

Cheers
Yann

Mika · Post by **Mika** » 14 Feb 2005, 05:58

L 236 from DATZ

Cattleya · Post by **Cattleya** » 14 Feb 2005, 06:20

Hi
L 236 from DATZ = "Catfish King or King of Catfish"

no other L236 loks like this.

Udo

Pandadosmares · Post by **Pandadosmares** » 14 Feb 2005, 13:43

Hello,

it could be a L345, i will receive mine today so later will compare

Do you know were they were picked?

Post by **Janne** » 14 Feb 2005, 21:08

Compare the color of their eyes, L250 have not brown eyes like this species have just like L236 and L287.
I think L250 is one species of it's own but the other two are the same species with a highly variable pattern, and maybe L345 also belongs to L236/L287...maybe not in Datz but in the new Aqualog it's the same.

Janne

Pandadosmares · Post by **Pandadosmares** » 15 Feb 2005, 00:00

Well in fact Yann`s fishes seems more a L250

those are mine L345 from Rio ParÃ¡

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 18 Feb 2005, 16:14

Hi!

Basically this Hypancistrus is without any number!

I found him labelled elsewhere as Hypancistrus sp "Belo Monte"!!!

Cheers
Yann

Post by **Janne** » 18 Feb 2005, 20:13

Belo monte is just downstreems of Altamira and in this area it is a big collecting spot of many species...so why does it shows up now and not earlier?
I think made up names like that is nothing you can rely on...when all ten have arrived I am convinced that you will see lots of differents pattern and no one alike the other.

Janne

Sven T. · Post by **Sven T.** » 20 Feb 2005, 11:36

Hi,

i think those plecos, and the plecos from pandadosmares, are Hypancistrus sp. "Belo Monte".

It makes no sense to give them any L-Number, because this species is very varbiable. Nice plecos of this species looks like the L236 or L250 from DATZ, and not so nice ones looks like an L174,L287 or L66 of Aqualog.

In the last time many of them were cought and selled all over the world. Exporters have got a good fantasy in giving them any numbers .... even better then the customers!

Here is a pic of my "Belo Montes":

Sven

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 21 Feb 2005, 15:30

Hi!

here is the link to a picture of the same Hypancistrus, by judging by the author, we can assume the ID is correct!!!

the fish is labelled as Hypancistrus sp "Belo Monte"

here is the link to the page

Cheers
Yann

Sven T. · Post by **Sven T.** » 21 Feb 2005, 16:42

Hi Yann,

you won't believe it it but this is the pleco you can see on the left side in my picture.

I bought this pleco from Jens Gottwald, owner of "Aquatarium" who cought this pleco together with Ingo Seidel in the Summer of 2004 during an expidition.

Sven

Julie · Post by **Julie** » 25 Feb 2005, 05:10

Interesting thread as I'm currently getting in a number of these fish.

I did get 6 of the L345's last week. they are still fairly skitish.. only got one half-decent photo..

looks like I did get both males and females... one is *huge* @3-4 inches.. rest are about an inch smaller.

With luck, the L236's come in Sunday