What might this catfish be..?

NotNoisy · Post by **NotNoisy** » 14 Dec 2004, 15:32

Apparently the fish's spots aren't as brightly colored as they are on this picture, they are a paler beige color.

Post by **Barbie** » 14 Dec 2004, 15:57

L001?

Barbie

Post by **Silurus** » 14 Dec 2004, 16:15

That was what I thought at first, but it looks like the fish has only 7 branched dorsal-fin rays.

Post by **Barbie** » 14 Dec 2004, 16:26

I couldn't tell for sure with the angle, but the dorsal didn't look quite right. I was hoping a peek at the catelog would either get a better picture or a firm "NO", hehe.

Barbie

Post by **Janne** » 14 Dec 2004, 16:28

Any chance for more pictures? It looks like a Scobiancistrus but more or better pic's are needed.

Janne

NotNoisy · Post by **NotNoisy** » 14 Dec 2004, 16:32

It was sold as L146 - which it of course is *not*. It looks a bit like a Scobiancistrus to me though....

I agree with Silurus, the dorsal fin doesn't look like a L001....

The tummy is spotted as well - except for a small part which is light/seethrough in color.

NotNoisy · Post by **NotNoisy** » 14 Dec 2004, 16:34

Janne wrote:Any chance for more pictures? It looks like a Scobiancistrus but more or better pic's are needed.

Janne

I've asked for more pictures, but apparently it doesn't want to be taken pic's of ;) Actually, I guessed L253.... can I get a negative on that?

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 14 Dec 2004, 16:51

NotNoisy wrote:
Janne wrote:Any chance for more pictures? It looks like a Scobiancistrus but more or better pic's are needed.

Janne
I've asked for more pictures, but apparently it doesn't want to be taken pic's of ;) Actually, I guessed L253.... can I get a negative on that?

I did think L253, but I'm not an expert. I was looking for a match, but I didn't find anything, and then I got caught up with that work bit that I'm being paid to do from time to time...

--
Mats

Tibe · Post by **Tibe** » 14 Dec 2004, 21:51

Hello everybody.

Since so many have taken an interest in identifying my catfishes, her are more pics. Unfortunately the quality is not as good as one could want for. Actually, there is two catfishes that I've bought as L146. I've numbered them 1 and 2. They are not quite similar, as you can see HERE. http://www.tibe.dk/catfish/

I really appreciate you all take an interest in identifying my fishes, thank you!

Tibe · Post by **Tibe** » 15 Dec 2004, 03:48

I'm very far from being any kind of expert. But several has suggested the L253, so I looked at the photos in the base. They are very similar with my fishes as far as I can tell, but there is a photo of a tummy with a defined pattern. There is no such pattern on my fishes. Is the a possibility for them being L253 even with out the pattern?

http://www.tibe.dk/catfish

PlecoCrazy · Post by **PlecoCrazy** » 15 Dec 2004, 03:57

Number 1 pic looks like a LDA31 but I am not sure on the 2nd pic

Tibe · Post by **Tibe** » 15 Dec 2004, 11:23

Soory, my mistake.

Tibe · Post by **Tibe** » 15 Dec 2004, 11:26

I've looked at the pictures of LDA31 in the base. I don't find the fishes so much looking like LDA31 as they do L253. They where different underneath.But again, I'm no expert.

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 15 Dec 2004, 11:57

Sorry but dyou mind talking english? If its private you might wonna use pm.

Tibe · Post by **Tibe** » 15 Dec 2004, 12:01

Sorry, have accidentally posted msg. for the Scandinavian catfish-forum here. Shall not be repeated. It's the nerve-racking experience of being a member of several forums.

Post by **Janne** » 15 Dec 2004, 17:26

1 = L48 or L253 Scobiancistrus sp and nb 2 is L201 Hypancistrus inspector.

Janne

Tibe · Post by **Tibe** » 06 Jan 2005, 00:47

Thank you all for spending time helping me to determine what kind of catfish these are. I really do appreciate it. But Iâ??m still not sure. Recently Iâ??ve also looked at the L136B, which I find quite similar, along with the L 253. Iâ??ve got a new camera, which is a huge improvement, and will try to get better photos soon. Iâ??m just trying to improve the human factor too.

lisa23 · Post by **lisa23** » 07 Jan 2005, 23:52

I,m no expert.
I thought they were both L29.

Lisa

yes but,no but,maybe,oh what the hell!

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 08 Jan 2005, 11:47

lisa23 wrote:I,m no expert. I thought they were both L29.

No, definately not. Both mouths are not the right rhombus shape and head shape of the Hypancistrus is too pointed and it's eye is too big for Leproacanthicus. Also the Scobinancistrus is slightly more elongate in the body. There are other differences but these are enough.

I think Janne is spot on. Pun intended.

Jools

lisa23 · Post by **lisa23** » 08 Jan 2005, 12:01

That's certainly put me in my place

I never was any good at spot the difference.

I guess i need 20+ years pleco keeping experience under my belt

lisa

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 08 Jan 2005, 13:28

lisa23 wrote:That's certainly put me in my place
I never was any good at spot the difference.

I guess i need 20+ years pl*co keeping experience under my belt

It's hard to tell these fish apart, but once you see (and thus learn) the differences between genera it becomes easier. The first step is to look beyond colour pattern at things like body shape, eye position, size of fins and so on. Seeing these fish together in person helps a lot too.

I can remember sitting in my favourite LFS with Hans-Georg Evers and he patiently showed me the differences in three species of black with white spots Hypostomus from the Rio Sao Fancisco he had collected. I still can't identify them from photos but when he was pulling them out of the tank and showing me them it all made sense.

Jools

INXS · Post by **INXS** » 09 Jan 2005, 05:07

This is my scobinancistrus - what I believe to be L-253. It seems to look a lot like it.

Number 2 looks a lot like L-201 but I have also had young L-029s look like that only to grow into leporacanthicus galaxis

What might this catfish be..?

What might this catfish be..?

Could it be L136b?