Development of pre-release S. Multipunctatus fry
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Development of pre-release S. Multipunctatus fry
Now this is interesting! The last 5 days have afforded me the opportunity to watch a brand new, pre-release S. multipunctatus larval fry develop and feed. It has been fascinating to say the least. Here is how this happened.
Last weekend while catching up assorted Mbuna fry and making the wonderful discovery of some 1/4" S. Multi fry hiding in the tank, I caught a holding female Cherry Red strain P. zebra and she spit her eggs in the transfer cup. When she did not pick them up I used a turkey baster to transfer them into an air bubble style incubator. I was not wearing my glasses at the time.
When I checked on the eggs in the incubator (with my glasses on) I noticed a nearly clear little critter squirming among the eggs. It was not attached to an egg and I thought it was a fry my handling had broken free of the egg sac. Closer inspection showed it was a larval S. multipunctatus.
It only had a fraction of the mass of the P. zebra eggs. It was very tiny, thin in shape and of course it did not have an egg sac at this stage. You would really have to be looking for it to see it. The P. zebra eggs were just showing the very first sings of a fry appearing on them. I wonder how many more multipunctatus larva I may have dumped because I simply was not looking for something that small among the eggs.
In the 5 days since the little catfish's growth has been nothing short of phenomenal. It appears to be eating at least one P. zebra egg with attached fry a day. It attaches it's self like a leech to a cichlid egg and in a less than a day that egg is consumed. The length of the fry has more than doubled but, the width of the head has at least quadrupled. At this growth rate, by the time it gets to the last of the cichlid eggs in a few more day it would not surprise me if it could just swallow them. It is still nearly clear in color. When I watched it attach to a new fry/egg sac a little while ago it seemed very mobile and made short work of locating it's next egg dinner in the much larger confines of the incubator as compared to a cichlid's mouth.
The incubator's chamber is only about 1 1/4" in diameter and is a fairly thick clear plastic. Between the distortion from the curvature of the plastic and the nearly clear color of the multi baby my limited photographic skills have been frustrated. I wish I was a better photographer so I could capture this process. Really cool to watch!!!! Like looking into the host fish's mouth.
I may need to find a couple of more cichlid eggs if the little multi does not look ready forage out of the incubator by the time he finishes up the 3 remaining cichlid fry / egg sacs. Has anyone heard of anyone else incubator raising a S. multipunctatus? If so who? I'd love to hear their experiences and maybe have a better chance to raise this little cat to adulthood. A test tube baby catfish! What is next? This IS a great hobby we all share.
Last weekend while catching up assorted Mbuna fry and making the wonderful discovery of some 1/4" S. Multi fry hiding in the tank, I caught a holding female Cherry Red strain P. zebra and she spit her eggs in the transfer cup. When she did not pick them up I used a turkey baster to transfer them into an air bubble style incubator. I was not wearing my glasses at the time.
When I checked on the eggs in the incubator (with my glasses on) I noticed a nearly clear little critter squirming among the eggs. It was not attached to an egg and I thought it was a fry my handling had broken free of the egg sac. Closer inspection showed it was a larval S. multipunctatus.
It only had a fraction of the mass of the P. zebra eggs. It was very tiny, thin in shape and of course it did not have an egg sac at this stage. You would really have to be looking for it to see it. The P. zebra eggs were just showing the very first sings of a fry appearing on them. I wonder how many more multipunctatus larva I may have dumped because I simply was not looking for something that small among the eggs.
In the 5 days since the little catfish's growth has been nothing short of phenomenal. It appears to be eating at least one P. zebra egg with attached fry a day. It attaches it's self like a leech to a cichlid egg and in a less than a day that egg is consumed. The length of the fry has more than doubled but, the width of the head has at least quadrupled. At this growth rate, by the time it gets to the last of the cichlid eggs in a few more day it would not surprise me if it could just swallow them. It is still nearly clear in color. When I watched it attach to a new fry/egg sac a little while ago it seemed very mobile and made short work of locating it's next egg dinner in the much larger confines of the incubator as compared to a cichlid's mouth.
The incubator's chamber is only about 1 1/4" in diameter and is a fairly thick clear plastic. Between the distortion from the curvature of the plastic and the nearly clear color of the multi baby my limited photographic skills have been frustrated. I wish I was a better photographer so I could capture this process. Really cool to watch!!!! Like looking into the host fish's mouth.
I may need to find a couple of more cichlid eggs if the little multi does not look ready forage out of the incubator by the time he finishes up the 3 remaining cichlid fry / egg sacs. Has anyone heard of anyone else incubator raising a S. multipunctatus? If so who? I'd love to hear their experiences and maybe have a better chance to raise this little cat to adulthood. A test tube baby catfish! What is next? This IS a great hobby we all share.
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Thanks for the reply. The little bugger finished off the egg he was eating this morning and then after eating the fry off the top of the egg sac he actuall swallowed the whole P. zebra egg. Amazing, like watching a python eat a rat. Thank you so much for the information on BBS. He only has one of the original eggs left and I was going to go begging eggs to strip from someone but, maybe I will try live micro worms and frozen BBS. In the confines of the incubator he should be able to find them. I wonder if little pieces of shrimp or fish flesh would also work? After all he can swallow a whole cichlid egg. What do you think? I would really like your advice. It would be nice to raise him out of the incubator.
I read the instructions on my camera's macro use and managed to get a couple of photos of him with the egg ingested. Let me see if I can figure out how to post them and I will be back.
I read the instructions on my camera's macro use and managed to get a couple of photos of him with the egg ingested. Let me see if I can figure out how to post them and I will be back.
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Please let me know if this posts the picture of the little guy in the incubator. http://imageevent.com/piccomments.jsp?r ... 1&d=1&ed=1
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Live brine shrimp nauplii are much more nutritous than frozen adult shrimp. You can feed them directly in the tumbler if you turn the air down (assuming a typical air powereed tumbler). Feed them ALOT!
I keep mine on BBS until they show close to adult coloration and can swim strongly or about two to three weeks. This is about the same time they would be released from a brooding cichlid. From there, I add small pelleted foods to the mix(HBH Soft and Moist Green a favorite), but keep feeding them very heavily and keep up on the BBS.
Using this, feeding heavily and keeping up on water changes, your fish will reach 1"-1.25" very quickly (6 weeks).
I keep mine on BBS until they show close to adult coloration and can swim strongly or about two to three weeks. This is about the same time they would be released from a brooding cichlid. From there, I add small pelleted foods to the mix(HBH Soft and Moist Green a favorite), but keep feeding them very heavily and keep up on the BBS.
Using this, feeding heavily and keeping up on water changes, your fish will reach 1"-1.25" very quickly (6 weeks).
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Paul E. Turley
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- JimLynchAZ
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Flyfish25, amazing photo! Their growth is nothing short of incredible. Mine ate all the zebra eggs and two batches of Taiwan Reef eggs so far. At about 10 days the catfish is are over 1/4" in length already. I would not have belived it if I had not watched it.
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