MMMnnn A little help?

Rico · Post by **Rico** » 13 May 2004, 15:18

Hi All

Can anyone help me id my latest addition

Many Thanks

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Post by **Barbie** » 13 May 2004, 15:43

L134?

Barbie

Rico · Post by **Rico** » 13 May 2004, 15:59

Well it certinaly is not a L002 tiger plec as it was sold, strange though because i did actually get a Tiger plec at the same time and they are some what different..

pleco_breeder · Post by **pleco_breeder** » 13 May 2004, 15:59

Have a look at L52 Zonancistrus sp.

Larry Vires

Rico · Post by **Rico** » 13 May 2004, 16:02

L52 is similar although their are only two bold lines on the nose which are pretty thick unlike the L52 which has a number of broken and solid lines?

Rico · Post by **Rico** » 13 May 2004, 16:09

Actually looking closer at the L134 that does have some very similar traites so I'm thinking you are right Barbie, either way i'm chuffed with the lil fella!

Thank you both!

Rich

kgroenhoej · Post by **kgroenhoej** » 13 May 2004, 16:18

It's a L168

regards
Klaus

Rico · Post by **Rico** » 13 May 2004, 16:33

The L168 is discribed as having completely different colouration at night, Mine remains the same under all conditions?

Here is another angel

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 13 May 2004, 21:49

Though I dunno what it is, that is one AWESOME plec.

Post by **Janne** » 13 May 2004, 22:03

It's L168 Dekeyseria/Zonancistrus pulcher, they dont change the colour if they not are stressed but can be darker when they lay at a piece of wood for exampel. L52 dont have so sharp colours and change very often in mood and get more lighter and diffuse pattern.

Janne

pleco_breeder · Post by **pleco_breeder** » 13 May 2004, 22:04

Rico,

It is L52. L168 would be a possibility, but is different than L52 in having a straighter pattern of lines. Both species, as well as most loricariidae, are quite variable in their pattern. L134 is a stockier fish and not as compressed, and is probably one of the most variable plecos known. It has a range from all spots, as in the so-called L134a, to a striped pattern, but the stripes do not usually run into one another. If you look at the side shots of L52, you will see the area of the back where the lines run together, which is the easiest identifying characteristic between it and L168.

Larry Vires

Post by **Janne** » 13 May 2004, 22:22

Sorry Larry but I think you have wrong about these, these pic below shows L168 or maybe its a new L-no because these are captured in Rio branco.

And this is L52 cought in Orinoco...sorry for the dark pic but these are much more shy and not so easy in front of the camera.

Janne

Sooty · Post by **Sooty** » 13 May 2004, 23:18

I was going to say it last night (Aussie time), but as with things, its scary being 1st to post as you dont want to look a fool.

I thought it was the L168, as these are a favourite of mine.

These are my L134's.

Wood · Post by **Wood** » 14 May 2004, 01:52

According to the new AqualogL052 and L168 are one and the same. You can tell L134 apart from them by its mouth. Hope this helps and does not add to the confusion.

Graeme · Post by **Graeme** » 14 May 2004, 04:57

L 168 with regional colors!!

G.

kgroenhoej · Post by **kgroenhoej** » 14 May 2004, 07:14

FYI:

According to the new Datz special "All l-numbers":
L168 is Zonancistrus brachyurus from Rio Negro
L052 is a undescribed Zonancistrus sp. from upper Orinoco drainage.

According to the new Aqualoq "All L-numbers":
L168 is Zonancistrus pulcher from Rio Negro
L052 is a undescribed Zonancistrus sp. from Colombia and Venezuela
There's also pictures of an undescibed Zonancistrus sp. without a l-number from Rio Urubaxi.
(@Wood: in matter of fact the text says: "L168: Another Zonancistrus species, but not identical with L052.")

@Rico: I still thinks that your fish is a L168

Regards
Klaus

Rico · Post by **Rico** » 14 May 2004, 20:07

Thanks everyone! Although a little confused I'm concluded that it is indeed a L168 and ill be looking out for another !

Cheers!

Post by **Janne** » 15 May 2004, 00:12

I will share this picture for you on a L52 laying on sand...these colour will not L168 show in any circumstances.

The L168 can fade in colour but not at all as much that L52 does.

Janne

Marshel · Post by **Marshel** » 02 Jul 2004, 04:43

Agree it is L168.

I think L52 has darker color.