Information on LDA018 or L072

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 00:54

I just bought this pleco but haven't been able to find any information on it. I've been told the common name is Yellow Princess Tiger. Does anyone know where I can get more information regarding it? Thanks.

Post by **Silurus** » 10 Feb 2004, 01:14

There is some here.

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 01:19

Thanks!

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 01:53

I have a few more questions regarding my pleco. What is the best way to feed it? In the Cat-eLog, it says it's omnivorous, but everytime I try to put blood worms into the tank, my other fish (african cichlids) eat it. I also have 3 clown loaches and a synodontis ornatus (i think) in the tank. I've put zuccini in the tank, but i dont think it's touched it yet. Any ideas? Thanks.

Post by **Silurus** » 10 Feb 2004, 01:58

Try spreading out the food in different parts of the tank, or doing most of the feeding at night when the lights are off.
You might also want to try algae wafers.
Fish take a while to get used to zucchini as a food source. If your pleco eats the algae wafers, you might want to try pressing the wafers into the zucchini to make it more appealing to the fish.

Post by **Barbie** » 10 Feb 2004, 02:34

On a side note, what type of african cichlids are you keeping? Pseudotropheus and Maylandia are going to risk bloat on anything but a vegetable based diet...

Barbie

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 02:52

That's what I'm afraid of...I have a mix and so far I've been able to get away with feeding OSI spirulina flakes first for mbuna, then spectrum cichlid formula pellets for the haps and frontosa. I've really tried to keep from putting in blood worms or brine shrimp as I want to feed these bimonthly at most. I have a 46 gallon bowfront and my list of fish are:

1 moorii
3 clown loaches
1 african cat (not sure what it is yet)
1 demasoni
1 eureka peacock
1 albino eureka peacock
1 electric yellow lab
1 leleupi
1 frontosa

My biggest so far is to keep the demasoni from gorging himself as he is very good at picking all the sinking food i put down. Is my mix of fish impossible to keep?

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 04:49

I'll try the algae wafers and see how it goes...thanks for all the help!

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 04:55

here is a link to a folder with a pic of my pleco...

http://f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/wil ... sh&.view=l

Post by **Barbie** » 10 Feb 2004, 07:15

Ergh. Did you pick these fish to live together yourself? If you had help from the LFS, please do NOT take their advice anymore. The frontosa alone is going to require a tank larger than that. The C. moorii also gets larger than 8 inches. The P. demasoni needs an ALL veggie diet, they are some of the more sensitive mbuna, IME, and once it reaches adult size, it won't take much to bloat it. The peacocks are pretty easy going, and can eat most anything, the N. leleupi probably will be alright as its not possible for it to form a pair and go on a killing spree, but honestly, your tank is only going to work temporarily, at best. Do you have plans to upgrade in the near future? Or for another tank to split these fish into? In the tank you have currently, I'd have to say yes, the fish you have are impossible to keep together. I'm sorry.

I'm not sure what type your pleco is from the one picture, but it appears to be one of the types that will stay small, at least. Your catfish appears to be a Synodontis eupterus, as nearly as I can tell from the last picture, although compared to the first 3, its very hard to tell.

Barbie

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 15:50

At the moment I have no plans to upgrade my tank but that can change depending on circumstance. It looks like the front and moorii will end up filling half my tank. I remember specifically asking the LFS to help me choose a colorful mix and to make sure the fish will go together. Since I'm relatively new to africans I assumed he knew more than me. I remember even asking them about bloat and he said not to worry. I was also very concerned that if my frontosa outgrew my other fish, it would be tempted to "snack" on them at night but he told me that if they grew up together, the front wouldn't see the other fish as food. I'll make a concerted effort to keep the demasoni's intake mainly vegetable.

I was also concerned about the size of my pleco so it's good to hear it'll stay small. I notcied that a fish ate half the zuccini but I can't tell which fish ate it. But it's half gone, so I'm thinking the pleco is the only fish that could do that since all my other fish are 1" or smaller. I also put in some napa cabbage so I'll see if the pleco will munch on that.

Thanks for all the input as it has been really helpful. Now i'm going to keep my fingers crossed and I'm actually debating whether or not I should return the demasoni before he gets bloat. It's just tough cuz he's my most lively and personable fish.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 10 Feb 2004, 16:14

Hi!

If you are scared that your Cichlids will eat the food for your Loricariidae, you can feed them at night when the lights are out...
You can also feed Artemia or Gammarus to your fish, it won't hurt your Cichlids that way...
Cheers
Yann

Wutang · Post by **Wutang** » 10 Feb 2004, 16:26

Thanks Yann....so Artemia is brine shrimp, correct? I actually have some spirulina enriched brine shrimp (not sure if it's just a gimmick or for real) but have been holding off as I'm trying to make my fish eat more vegetable matter. What is the common name for Gammarus? I'll try putting some brine at night.

Also, in order to get the best color out of my pleco, will blood worms help or can it be happy on a mainly vegetable diet with occasional protein? Sorry for all the questions...