Brown Synodontis

Did you know fantastic help is an anagram of Planet Catfish? This forum is for those of you with pictures of your catfish who are looking for help identifying them. There are many here to help and a firm ID is the first step towards keeping your catfish in the best conditions.
Post Reply
Kryptic
Posts: 35
Joined: 27 Feb 2021, 17:34
My cats species list: 16 (i:13, k:9)
Spotted: 17
Location 1: Finland
Location 2: Espoo

Brown Synodontis

Post by Kryptic »

I finally decided to register here and ask you what do you think this syno is? I bought her few years ago as a rescue. She is around 24cm SL and my guess is that she is either S. nigrita or rebeli. I'm pretty confident that she is not a hybrid but who knows.
Attachments
IMG_2876.JPG
IMG_2888.JPG
User avatar
bekateen
Posts: 9331
Joined: 09 Sep 2014, 17:50
I've donated: $40.00!
My articles: 4
My images: 141
My cats species list: 145 (i:105, k:35)
My aquaria list: 37 (i:14)
My BLogs: 45 (i:150, p:2729)
My Wishlist: 35
Spotted: 183
Location 1: USA, California, Stockton
Location 2: USA, California, Stockton
Contact:

Re: Brown Synodontis

Post by bekateen »

@Birger, any thoughts?
Image
Find me on YouTube & Facebook: http://youtube.com/user/Bekateen1; https://www.facebook.com/Bekateen
Buying caves from https://plecocaves.com? Plecocaves sponsor Bekateen's Fishroom. Use coupon code bekateen for 15% off your order.
Also, for you Swifties: Https://youtu.be/ZUKdhXL3NCw
Viktor Jarikov
Posts: 5485
Joined: 26 Jan 2010, 20:11
My images: 11
My cats species list: 25 (i:0, k:0)
Spotted: 4
Location 1: Naples, FL
Location 2: USA

Re: Brown Synodontis

Post by Viktor Jarikov »

To a superficial glance, I'd guess a hybrid because I don't recall any genuine species having the same spotting on the body and in the fins, same size and same density of spots, while I have seen plenty of hybrids fitting this description.

But with the recent numerous additions to the syno genus I can't be so sure without looking through all available photos.

I hope a serious expert will chime in. I am very far from it.
Thebiggerthebetter
fish-story.com
User avatar
Jools
Expert
Posts: 16140
Joined: 30 Dec 2002, 15:25
My articles: 198
My images: 948
My catfish: 237
My cats species list: 87 (i:237, k:1)
My BLogs: 7 (i:10, p:202)
My Wishlist: 23
Spotted: 450
Location 1: Middle Earth,
Location 2: Scotland
Interests: All things aquatic, Sci-Fi, photography and travel. Oh, and beer.
Contact:

Re: Brown Synodontis

Post by Jools »

Again, no expert, but I don't see any hybrid characteristics in here. My first thought was but and are closer in terms of colouration while still being roughly the right shape.

Jools
Kryptic
Posts: 35
Joined: 27 Feb 2021, 17:34
My cats species list: 16 (i:13, k:9)
Spotted: 17
Location 1: Finland
Location 2: Espoo

Re: Brown Synodontis

Post by Kryptic »

Thank you for all the replies. I think I forgot to mention that those fotos are taken with flash to show her pattern a bit better. Below is a pic that shows her true colour and a close up of her mouth/barbels, if that offers more help. Dorsomaculatus seems to be a good option, only thing is that size since my specimen is 10cm longer than what is reported as the max lenght for dorsomaculatus. Obesus is one that I have been thinking but something about the humeral process and adipose fin seem slightly off. Maybe I'm just overthinking that and it is a obesus.
Attachments
IMG_3286.JPG
IMG_3292.JPG
Viktor Jarikov
Posts: 5485
Joined: 26 Jan 2010, 20:11
My images: 11
My cats species list: 25 (i:0, k:0)
Spotted: 4
Location 1: Naples, FL
Location 2: USA

Re: Brown Synodontis

Post by Viktor Jarikov »

I'd trust Jools over myself for sure but thought I'd point out - all three proposed species linked above feature bands or regularly arranged bands of spots in the caudal fin, which to my eye the fish in question doesn't feature at all.

I submit this is a pretty shallow observation.
Thebiggerthebetter
fish-story.com
Kryptic
Posts: 35
Joined: 27 Feb 2021, 17:34
My cats species list: 16 (i:13, k:9)
Spotted: 17
Location 1: Finland
Location 2: Espoo

Re: Brown Synodontis

Post by Kryptic »

Yeah I have to agree with you Viktor, the pattern is little off on the fins. This is partly why I was originally suspecting that she is S. rebeli because in its description in Seegers' The Catfishes of Africa it says "...with numerous irregularly distributed, roundish black spots of around pupil to eye size. These extend all over the head, body and fins." The pictured fish there does also remind my fish, but I'm still quite unsure if my fish is actually S. rebeli.
User avatar
Birger
Expert
Posts: 3870
Joined: 01 Dec 2003, 05:04
My articles: 10
My images: 112
My cats species list: 49 (i:43, k:0)
Spotted: 35
Location 1: Edmonton,Alberta
Location 2: Canada

Re: Brown Synodontis

Post by Birger »

I woud go with it being a member of the rebeli/obesus sort of complex.
Very hard to distinguish and I would not be surprised to hear there are more species.
Birger
Post Reply

Return to “What is my catfish?”