Shane wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 13:16I think we missed each other here. Gomes, not Mees, described M. iheringi from the Rio Tuy basin in Venezuela. Mees found a Microglanis sp in the Meta basin in Colombia (separated from the Tuy basin by the Andes) and made the mistake of trying to match it to something already described. The closest thing he could find was Gomes' fish so he mistakenly came to the conclusion the were a match.
Hi Shane,
Sorry about the confusion there - it was me having a (hopefully premature) senior moment. Yes, I am aware that Gomes described
M. iheringi instead of Mees (after all, I wrote that in a comment earlier in this thread, so obviously I knew that). However, when I read your comment about the picture above not being the type specimen, and the reference to Mees, my mind linked Mees as the scientist while simultaneously I was thinking about the photo of Gomes holotype instead of the drawing provided by Mees. So my confusion came by conflating Mees with Gomes' photograph and inferring that you were saying the photograph was not the holotype.
As for everything else you wrote, yes that makes sense. And since the Mees drawing is from Colombia, that fish may well be the same as the Colombian fish I am seeing imported to the USA today. It certainly looks similar.
Shane wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 13:40This may very well be iheringi from the Tuy basin. It matches closely to the only line drawing I have seen of a specimen actually collected from the Tuy system near El Hatillo.
From Roman's 1992 Peces Ornamentales de Venezuela.
-Shane
Thank you for the photo from the book. Very interesting. Looking at the heavily pigmented fins and darker body, it resembles the smaller fish I have with the wood-grained sides, spotted fins and the U shaped brown saddle under the dorsal. But if they are similar, my fish are still small. According to Gomes, M. iheringi gets larger, the size of my bigger yellow fishes.
As an unrelated issue, and because I know of no better place to put this, today I came upon a publication that shows the ovaries of a Colombian/Venezuelan Microglanis (predictably labeled "M. iheringi"). Here's the photo.
- Microglanis iheringi – Yanis Cruz ©
I share it for curiousity purposes and reproductive reference than for its photographic quality and aid in taxonomic identification. The chapter describes reproductive habits of the ornamental fishes in the region and states that Microglanis from the Arauca region are a high fecundity genus breeding repeatedly during the breeding season. The chapter doesn't explicitly link the photographed Microglanis to Arauca, but their graph showing ovarian status includes Microglanis iheringi in the legend.
- Figure 4.22. Monthly behavior of general gonadal maturation for the analyzed species from the Arauca region (N = 2797). 7 sp .: Apteronotus albifrons, Brachyhypopomus brevirostris, Corydoras habrosus, Eigenmannia virescens, Microglanis iheringi, Otocinclus cf. vestitus, Platydoras armatulus, Thoracocharax stellatus. (1) Immature, (2) Maturing, (3) Mature, (4) Spawned.
Here is text from the chapter:
The number of specimens analyzed in the different groups of fish in the Arauca region is relatively low compared to those in other regions, due to the low species richness and lower volumes of capture of ornamental fish recorded for this region. The data analysis of gonadal maturation stages shows a maturation peak in May for the Gasteropelecidae Family (Figure 4.19), while in the Loricariidae (Figure 4.20) and Callichthyidae (Figure 4.21) families, no mature specimens were observed, probably due to the small sample size. The analysis of the gonadal maturation stages for all the Fish Families in the Arauca region shows a reproductive peak in the months of May and June (Figure 4.22), coinciding with the current closed period for the Orinoco river basin.
... Species with high fecundity tend to produce waves of maturation with partial spawning at intervals of days or weeks during the reproductive season.
Reference:
Ortega-Lara, A., Y. Cruz-Quintana, y V. Puentes. (Eds.). 2015. Dinámica de la Actividad Pesquera de Peces Ornamentales Continentales en Colombia. Serie Recursos Pesqueros de Colombia – AUNAP. Autoridad Nacional de Acuicultura y Pesca –
AUNAP ©. Fundación FUNINDES ©. 174 p.