Corydoras ID? Thanks!

philtre · Post by **philtre** » 23 Jan 2004, 06:28

Hi All,

Any ideas what this fella is? Doesnt quite look like the usual axelrodi?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
phil

Achim · Post by **Achim** » 23 Jan 2004, 09:31

Hi Philtre,

Looks like a C. axelrodi to me. Why do you think it's a different species?

Greetings,

Achim

benny · Post by **benny** » 23 Jan 2004, 13:03

Hi,

I think the supplier philtre got it from has the fishes marked as C. bondi on his list, together with C83 as contaminants in the same bag. They were shipped together with another shipment of C. axelrodi.

We are sure that C. bondi does not look like that, but there are pieces there with very varied markings. Hence the uncertainty.

Cheers,

Post by **Coryman** » 23 Jan 2004, 14:59

Do you have any more pictures, this one does not show the body marking all the good

Ian[/b]

philtre · Post by **philtre** » 28 Jan 2004, 13:48

Here's a picture of one of the fellas that I brought home

Here are those that were surfing happily at where I got them

What do you think?
Thanks!

Perky · Post by **Perky** » 28 Jan 2004, 18:27

Panda Cory I think. It looks like th panda corys theyn have in my LFS anyway.

hippyguy · Post by **hippyguy** » 28 Jan 2004, 20:38

hey Phil,
looks like an axelrodi to me. Just a bit faded in colours. It's definately not a c.panda.

Hippyguy

philtre · Post by **philtre** » 29 Jan 2004, 04:15

thanks guys

just my thoughts ....

the usual axelrodis to me look kinda "cleaner" These fellas that we are seeing have a line along the top of their dorsal. In addition, they have markings on the dorsal fin, usually the first few rays. Besides that some of them have a smattering of markings along the lateral line. In some specimens this line goes into the lower part of the caudal fin too.

my two cents worth

Cheers
phil

Achim · Post by **Achim** » 29 Jan 2004, 11:01

Hi Phil

These fellas that we are seeing have a line along the top of their dorsal. In addition, they have markings on the dorsal fin, usually the first few rays. Besides that some of them have a smattering of markings along the lateral line. In some specimens this line goes into the lower part of the caudal fin too.

From the description ("translation" by me):

Colouration:
The dorsum betwen Dorsal and adipose fin is black, broad black stripe over the seat of the lateral plates, which extends to the lower rays of the caudal fin. Over and under this stripe some black points in one or two rows on the forebody. The dorsal is on its basis slightly pigmented. The adipose fin of the type has a black spot, which the paratypes lack. The upper and lower rays of the caudal fin are light yellowish-brown, the median are colourless. All other fins colourless.

Live colouration (from a colour picture): The upside of the head chocolate brown, the cheeks lighter; Operculum and preoperculum brownish-yellow; under the black stripe of the body center runs a bright shining stripe.

Additionally one has to say that the b/w photo of a live specimen in the description (by Axelrod) shows a dusky black dorsal spine and first rays.

I'm not sure if the copyright expires after 40 years, so i don't post a scan of the pic of the holotype from RÃ¶ssel's description here.
However, i know now why you think its not C. axelrodi. On your picture of the group in the lfs there are some fish that look somehow "different".

Greetings,

Achim

philtre · Post by **philtre** » 29 Jan 2004, 17:05

Hi Achim

thanks ... so they would seem like axelrodis after all?

you're right though ... there are indeed some fellas who were really different in there. contaminants perhaps? not quite sure about that.

I could try and get some pics from the others (other hobbyists) for discusssion sake.

Achim · Post by **Achim** » 29 Jan 2004, 17:37

Hi Phil,

so they would seem like axelrodis after all?

The one you bought and pictured at home in my opinion: yes.

Achim

Post by **Coryman** » 30 Jan 2004, 01:16

C. axelrodi, tho odd ones that often turn up in shipments are usually C. sp 'Deckeri'

loupgarou · Post by **loupgarou** » 01 Mar 2004, 10:23

Please confirm these guys.

Axelrodi or Deckeri..*incidentally can't find deckeri in books..*

loupgarou · Post by **loupgarou** » 01 Mar 2004, 18:28

suspect above is deckeri.

these should be axelrodi.

loupgarou · Post by **loupgarou** » 02 Mar 2004, 07:19

http://yagurilo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/corydorasshoukai.html

check this website out.
apparently not deckeri's either.
described as Corydoras sp 'Axelrodi 2'