Hemibagrus wyckii with Parachromis Dovii ?

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 06 Jan 2004, 19:01

Hi all!
I am curios to se what you think of this.
I have a couple of Parachromis Dovii and one female extra.
Now does anyone think its possible to have Hemibagrus wyckii in the same tank with those?
Before you answer be sure you now what kind of cichlid i am talking about.
The Hemibagrus wyckii is about 15 cm.
The Dovii male is 21 cm
dovii female 15 cm
other female 13 cm
Is the combination possible.
The tank is 540 l big

Appretiate answers.

Best regards
Daniel

Post by **Silurus** » 07 Jan 2004, 08:00

Now does anyone think its possible to have Hemibagrus wyckii in the same tank with those?

I think it's probably not a good idea.

Post by **Shane** » 07 Jan 2004, 12:55

I second HH. While large pimelodids tend to be safe with other fishes that they can not swallow, this is not true with Hemibagrus. If a tankmate is too big for a Hemibagrus to swallow, he/she will bite the other fish and bully it until it is miserable or dead.
-Shane

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 07 Jan 2004, 14:05

>Shane

Yes thats correct.
But the thing is that Dovii is regarded to be the most aggressive cichlid of all.
And does the catfish have the guts to bite a fish its get beaten up by?
The Hemibargus is 15 cm the Doviimale 21 cm.
The Dovii would certainly be the stongest fish and fastest aswell...
Actually im am more concerned about the hemibargus getting beaten than the oposite.
On the other hand i have never owned a catfish like this.
And when i saw it in the store i felt that i just GOT TO HAVE IT!

Best regards
Daniel[/quote]

Chrysichthys · Post by **Chrysichthys** » 07 Jan 2004, 15:46

Is dovii the big bad Wolf cichlid? It sounds like a case of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.

Post by **Silurus** » 07 Jan 2004, 15:57

And does the catfish have the guts to bite a fish its get beaten up by?

I find that size does not matter that much for Hemibagrus. It'll beat the dovii to death.
Don't forget that the catfish can hide fairly easily while being chased about during the day, but the dovii has to sleep (usually out in the open) at night (when the catfish is active), and that's when its ordeal begins.

Chrysichthys · Post by **Chrysichthys** » 07 Jan 2004, 17:08

Setting Hemibagrus to one side, if the dovii have paired up they will probably eliminate the extra female if she isn't removed promptly.

Post by **Shane** » 07 Jan 2004, 19:26

P. dovii may be one of the most aggressive cichlids (I personally think that a large pavon (Cichla sp) would easily take out a P. dovii in a fight), but Hemibagrus are considered the most aggressive FRESHWATER FISH in the world. As was pointed out, putting these two together can only lead to disaster. The cichlid might kill the catfish and the catfish might kill the cichlid, but either way you will end up with dead fish if you put these two titans together.
-Shane

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 07 Jan 2004, 19:44

Shane and a few other have a point...
I will buy this fish and put him in an own tank.Im sure that will be the best.
How large does this killer ususally become?
I mean every Hemibagrus cant be 70 cm.
Is 30 cm a grown adult?

Best regards
Daniel

Post by **Silurus** » 07 Jan 2004, 21:18

How large does this killer ususally become?
I mean every Hemibagrus cant be 70 cm.

Oh yes, they can, given the proper care. You can expect closer to 40-50 cm in the aquarium, though.

Is 30 cm a grown adult?

They are already sexually mature at that size. If you mean to ask if they will stop growing after that, the answer is no.

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 10 Jan 2004, 22:52

YES!
I got him!!
So now he is temporarily living together with 3 cihlids 2 Cichlasoma Festae and 1 convict female in a 160 liters tank.They are about 6-8 cm size.
So what do i feed him with?
Is he going to eat these fishes directly?
Are he going to take an other food than fishes?

Best regards
Daniel

Post by **Silurus** » 11 Jan 2004, 00:35

So what do i feed him with?

Sinking pellets, worms, or some other protein-rich food (even Tetra Bits will do in a pinch). You do not necessarily have to feed it live food.

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 14 Jan 2004, 18:27

4 days have now gone and he hasnt touched any other fish yet.
And he havent taken any other food either.
He is actually sleeping all day an as soon as i turn the lights off he is starting to move around in the tank.
Am i supposed to give him food at night or is he eventually going to eat the fishes that are in the tank together with him now?

Best regards
Daniel

Post by **Silurus** » 14 Jan 2004, 18:30

Feed it at night. Though, it'll eat during the day if they are hungry enough (and trust me, they are hungry all the time).
It'll probably take a few days for it to get adjusted to its new surroundings before it regains its appetite.

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 17 Jan 2004, 17:52

He is eating some sinking pellets but all the fishes are still alive and intact.
But he is a cool guy:-)

Regards
Daniel

wayne the pain · Post by **wayne the pain** » 16 Mar 2004, 12:42

hey mr greed just want a update on your new catfish please.

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 16 Mar 2004, 15:15

Hi there!
My Wyckii is currently living now in a 360 liters tank together with 2 Cichlasoma Festae.
So far everything is working out quite fine at least for the Wyckii.
I usually feed him with a lot of sinking pellets and shrimps so he has
not touched the other fishes yet.
But he has eaten some live food aswell about 8 tetras and one rainbowfish so far.
He has grown a LOT since i got him and ill guess he is about 22-25cm.
So far as long as the cihlids doesnt comes near him he doesnt seem bother to much about them
Thats in daylight then of course....
At night he really is the black death swimming around the tank and scares the shit
out of the other 2 fishes and they have learned the hard way that they better hide
or swim very fast when he is around...
He is definately the boss in the tank.
At this stage i would not even consider to try to put him in the Doviitank
because my male Dovii is totally insane and very aggressive against any other fish.
So putting these to together will only get me a dead fish left i suppose.
But he is a really cool fish.
Im going to try put up some pictures of him later today.

regards
Greed

wayne the pain · Post by **wayne the pain** » 16 Mar 2004, 16:02

yeh mr greed pix would be great

if you dont mind me asking how much was he/her.

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 16 Mar 2004, 19:09

If you copy the link below in to your browser you will see the pictures.
I bought my Hemibagrus Wyckii for aprox 55 euro.

http://hem.passagen.se/greedhomepage/fiskar/

regards
Daniel

mrgreed · Post by **mrgreed** » 16 Mar 2004, 19:43

just a note
you got to left click on the link no right..and the first 2 pictures is my Festaes the rest wyckii.
Look at the eyes:-()

wayne the pain · Post by **wayne the pain** » 17 Mar 2004, 08:40

cool pix, thanks for sharing Mr greed, really nice cat, festae arnt to bad either(for cichlids

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