Pics of my cats... RTC,Juruense,TSN,Leiarius Marmoratus

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 20 Jan 2003, 08:45

some of my BIg boys.. and some that will be Big boys

well what you think?

you know whats missing?? Tigrinus and L. Pictus... aslo maybe a Perruno. i will have them one day.. but its a pain to wait.

Post by **Rusty** » 20 Jan 2003, 14:28

How big is the tank? How bout an L. alexandri?

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 20 Jan 2003, 17:44

erm sorry mebby i missed it but where do the fish hide?

Zack · Post by **Zack** » 21 Jan 2003, 01:12

WOW awesome fish. How big is that tank? I like the peacock bass, Very nice. How big will it get? How many fish do you have in all in there?What do you feed them??

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 21 Jan 2003, 02:24

Rusty wrote:How big is the tank? How bout an L. alexandri?

Leiarius alexandri?? ive never heard of it.. please give me some info on this fish!!

thanks for the complements all.. the Marmoratus and the TSN are in a 180 gallon tank.. the Jur and the RTC are in a 75 gallon tank..

im allmost done seting up a 1500 gallon indoor pond for these guys..

i feed all my fish SHrimp and pelets..

Post by **Silurus** » 21 Jan 2003, 02:34

I think Rusty meant <i>Lophiosilurus alexandri</i>. I might have posted some pics of this cat in an earlier thread (or was that in the old forum?).

Post by **Rusty** » 21 Jan 2003, 02:48

Yes, that's what I meant, but was too lazy too type out Lophiosilurus. It looks kind of like a very large Chaca chaca. Very neat.

Post by **Silurus** » 21 Jan 2003, 02:53

A few pics of this fish:

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 21 Jan 2003, 08:43

Silurus wrote:A few pics of this fish:

how large does he get??

Post by **Silurus** » 21 Jan 2003, 08:49

80 cm or so.

coelacanth · Post by **coelacanth** » 21 Jan 2003, 13:03

[quote im allmost done seting up a 1500 gallon indoor pond for these guys.. [/quote]

What are the dimensions of this pond?
What filtration are you using?
Are you hoping to keep all the fish you have in the pond, or will you be rehousing some of them in time?
Pete

Post by **Shane** » 21 Jan 2003, 22:55

Zack,
That pavon (peacock cichlid) will get pretty big as well. My friend Beth snagged this young male while we were fishing in Lake Camatagua, Venezuela.
-Shane

Post by **Dinyar** » 21 Jan 2003, 23:58

Now all you need are a couple of Silurus wels, a Paroon Shark or two aand you should be all set!

Post by **Rusty** » 22 Jan 2003, 00:28

Forget sanitwongsi... How about a Pangasiadon gigas. After they come back from the brink of extinction of course.

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 22 Jan 2003, 04:33

i have 3 cichla Monoculus (peacockBass).. they typicaly hit 24 inches... they are the smallest of the Cichla..

the 1500 is 10x10x3... this is just a holding tank.. untill i move out and get a biger set up...

i will post pics of the pond and the filtration when its all done..

im in the search for Silurus Glanis.. i would realy like a couple in my out door ponds..

thanks for the complements all

PS" nice peacockBass pic

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 22 Jan 2003, 04:37

PS: that PeacockBass in the PIc with your freind holding it is a CIchla Ocellaris.. one of the larger Peacocks.. hes allmost full grown.. probly another 5 inches.. and will get alot thicker

mokmu · Post by **mokmu** » 23 Jan 2003, 13:35

PB, how are the L. Marmoratus and the TSN doing? How big are they now?

Post by **Shane** » 24 Jan 2003, 00:01

Not to get too far off topic, but the pavon in the photo is pavon mariposa (Cichla orinocensis) which is the same spp. pictured in the photo of you tank above. C. monoculus is a very distinct sp. that in Venezuela is restricted to the upper Orinoco, Casiquiare, and Rio Negro. C. ocellaris is restricted to the Cuyuni, which is nowhere near Camatagua. A large C. orinocensis can weigh in at 22 pounds, so this little 12 pounder has a lot of growing to do. For more information see Lasso and Machado-Allison (2001) "Pavones de Venezuela: Diagnosis, distribucion, y clave para la identificacon de las especies de la Cuenca del Orinoco" in the book Ecologia y conservacion del pavon published by the Fundacion Cisneros.
-Shane

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 24 Jan 2003, 01:47

Shane wrote:Not to get too far off topic, but the pavon in the photo is pavon mariposa (Cichla orinocensis) which is the same spp. pictured in the photo of you tank above. C. monoculus is a very distinct sp. that in Venezuela is restricted to the upper Orinoco, Casiquiare, and Rio Negro. C. ocellaris is restricted to the Cuyuni, which is nowhere near Camatagua. A large C. orinocensis can weigh in at 22 pounds, so this little 12 pounder has a lot of growing to do. For more information see Lasso and Machado-Allison (2001) "Pavones de Venezuela: Diagnosis, distribucion, y clave para la identificacon de las especies de la Cuenca del Orinoco" in the book Ecologia y conservacion del pavon published by the Fundacion Cisneros.
-Shane

so your saying My 3 PeacockBass that are in my tank are Orinocensis??

i didnt quite understand what you are saying.. so please can you make it more clear?

Post by **Rusty** » 24 Jan 2003, 01:48

I think that is what Shane means.

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 24 Jan 2003, 03:10

well my guys are cichla monoculus.. with NO doubt of any kind with the hbig PeacockBass Fans and specialist's...

Ornic's have a Vey diferent color Forms.. way diferent from any other PeacockBass.. and that peacock in the pics is hard to tell.. specialy with the Red eye and the Darker color.. i wish i could get a better shot..

and monoculus are the smallest variety of peacockbass.. they are farm bread in Asia and are the most comonly sean.. i have had some ocellaris in the past and they are one of the only peacocks if not the ONLY peacock with the Red eye..

shane please get back to me.

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 24 Jan 2003, 03:35

ok.. ill change my mind..

i lightened up the pic... i could not see the colors well..

it is a Orin.

but mine are True MOnoculus.

Post by **Shane** » 24 Jan 2003, 03:55

Peacock Bass,
This is getting way off topic so I will respond only once more (lest we face the wrath of Jools

). Please feel free to e-mail me or send a private message if you need more information.
I do not know what characteristics you are basing your identification on or what experts you have spoken to. I am simply saying that the tucunare (Cichla monoculus) is a very distinctive looking pavon that is green with four distinct black stripes and an overall black mottled pattern. The fish in the picture above (your fish) is a pavon mariposa (butterfly peacock) also called pavon tres estrellas (three star peacock after the three spots on the body) which is Cichla orinocensis. There is a very good photo of C. monoculus in the Baensch Aquarium Atlas Photo Index (pg. 750) and you can tell at a glance that this is not your fish. Also, as I stated above, the fish in the picture (my picture) was captured in Lake Camatagua, Venezuela which is hundreds of miles north of the northern most range of C. ocellaris. I do not believe that the eye color is useful for identifying these fish as some have red eyes and others do not. In fact, I am quite sure that their eye color is related to their environment with the red eye color showing up in specimens from clear and black waters. It may be an adapatation to a specific environmental factor such as the clarity of the water they live in. I have many photos of various pavon spp. that I have taken throughout South America that I can share with you so you can see all of the different spp.
If you are serious about these fish, as I must guess you are since you have chosen to call yourself Peacock Bass (you do realize they are cichlids and not centrarchids and should be called peacock cichlids in English), then you need the book that I cited above as well as Benigno Roman's fantastic book "El Pavon" which was published by the La Salle Foundation as part of their series "Peces de Los Llanos." Of course my favorite book in the series is "Los Bagres" which covers all of the big pimelodids of Venezuela. There, brought it back to catfishes!

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 24 Jan 2003, 05:10

i dont know how you think mine have the 3 dots..

here are some beter shots..

IYO what are these??

and yes i know they are a cichlid.. and when i think of a Peacock cichlid i think of an African cichlid called the Peacock..

i do not base my OPinions off of Fisherman books.. i would hope you dont either.. most fisherman still belive a cichla is a Bass..

here are some more pics of a Monoculus.. witch i looked up on the net using google.

you take a geus.. mine DO NOT have the 3 stars to indicate Orin's

i dont think i was soooooo fortunate to actualy Get some Orins considering they are SUper rare and are quite expensive. there are only 2 people i am awar of who can actualy Get Orins out of SA and they havnt so far..

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 25 Jan 2003, 11:41

Guys, this is too far off topic. Can you please continue this via pm or email.

Jools

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 25 Jan 2003, 23:59

how is this geting off topic??? we are discusing fish in my Pics...

just because its not catfish?

Sid Guppy · Post by **Sid Guppy** » 26 Jan 2003, 01:08

Silurus;
I WANT THAT FISH!
Lophiosilurus , I mean....never saw anything so beautiful in my life, I'm in love!

it must be possible to go where they dwell and put my snorkled face up close to them.....

To the cichla-catchers; those things are TASTY! I've eaten them while on a jungletrip in SA, good food.
And, I second Caol-li's question; are there any hiding places in that tank, for the catfishes?
btw nice pics, I especially like the upclose pic of the Tigers' head.

PeacockBass · Post by **PeacockBass** » 27 Jan 2003, 02:18

there are no hiding places.... there is only one in with the RTC and the Juruense.. and the RTC is hiding in it now while the Jur is ballancing on the top of it in the curent.

jim2y · Post by **jim2y** » 10 Jan 2004, 11:00

Heii......How about arapaima gigas? Do you like it? I think this fish is a good choice for your pond, right?
In my country (Indonesia) I have ever seen a big pond in the backyard of a big house the pond is consists of a pairs of arapaima gigas and they are combined with RTC and some black Pacus.
When i saw the ponds the owner was giving hen's head to them. Thats so amazing!!!!!

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 10 Jan 2004, 13:59

PeacockBass wrote:how is this geting off topic??? we are discusing fish in my Pics...

just because its not catfish?

It's off topic becuase the topic was about big cats, this is a south american catfish forum and a catfish website. Now I see we're even talking about Arips! I've locked the topic. No problem if you want to persuade an admin to split the cichlid posts off to the speak easy.

BTW, you could be a little more polite in your manner.

Jools