Information About Rineloricaria sp. Centurion? -Pictures

gugge · Post by **gugge** » 11 Dec 2003, 10:31

Hi!

IÂ´m looking for infomation for Rineloricaria sp. Centurion, I have 4 of these I i only know that they are a whiptale kind of Catfish.. I guess Centurion is the plce it comes from...

Does anyone have information about this catfish specifficly? Or more info on the catfish that is near this one?!

All information is apprishiated!

(sorry for the poor english ;)

Post by **Shane** » 11 Dec 2003, 12:12

This is a new name to me. Can you post a photo so we canidentify the species?
-Shane

gugge · Post by **gugge** » 11 Dec 2003, 12:28

I took 2 pictures of the yesterday, they are not so good... iÂ´ll try to take better ones tonight! this first i think is a male....

http://lgh15.vidingsjo.se/~gugge/images ... a-Hane.jpg

and this a female(it doesenÂ´t show but she has a "beard")

http://lgh15.vidingsjo.se/~gugge/images ... a-Hona.jpg

Hmm I guess itÂ´s a member of Loricariidae.... since the Rineloricaria lima is just that

thankÂ´s for the help!

pleco_breeder · Post by **pleco_breeder** » 11 Dec 2003, 17:26

Hello,
I cannot get an exact species ID from the pics, but it is not aRineloricaria. Looks like a Loricaria species.

Larry Vires

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 11 Dec 2003, 17:54

Hi!

Is it just the pic or does he has odontodes on the pectoral fins and on the back in front the dorsal fins???

Rather weird look fish, he seems to have some caracteristic of several different genus

Cheers
Yann

gugge · Post by **gugge** » 11 Dec 2003, 21:07

Hi Again!

Well it seems this is a hard one to recognise so here is 2 more pictures with the fins more visible!

The first(This is the one i called a female in the eralier message)

http://lgh15.vidingsjo.se/~gugge/images ... caria1.jpg

and the second

http://lgh15.vidingsjo.se/~gugge/images ... caria2.jpg

thanks for your help so far!

And even more pictures:

http://lgh15.vidingsjo.se/~gugge/images ... caria3.jpg

http://lgh15.vidingsjo.se/~gugge/images ... caria4.jpg

I Hope they help!

Graeme · Post by **Graeme** » 11 Dec 2003, 22:20

That's one very interesting Catfish!

Graeme.

Charly EON · Post by **Charly EON** » 11 Dec 2003, 23:11

Hello

I guess by the name that your fish are from Uruguay
I have a more or less closely related species from Argentina which I have been unable to identify. A close up picture or the mouth would help identify the genus (Loricaria or hemiloricaria my first guess) Do you also have a picture on a white sand background ??

Charly

Charly EON · Post by **Charly EON** » 11 Dec 2003, 23:14

looking more closely=> more likely to be Rineloricaria

Fiskars the Whiskers · Post by **Fiskars the Whiskers** » 11 Dec 2003, 23:25

Those are some pretty awesome-looking fish!!!

coelacanth · Post by **coelacanth** » 11 Dec 2003, 23:56

Charly EON wrote:I guess by the name that your fish are from Uruguay

I agree, the 'Centurion' trade name has been applied to a rather stunning Gymnogeophagus from Uruguay, so it makes sense that these fish may also be from there.

pleco_breeder · Post by **pleco_breeder** » 12 Dec 2003, 00:04

Hello,
Looking more closely, with the fins in view, as well as a nice shot of the males cheek bristles, I have to withdraw my last statement. It very well may be a Rineloricaria. The problem will be species verification since there are several color morphs of most of those species.

Larry Vires

magnum4 · Post by **magnum4** » 12 Dec 2003, 00:17

gugge what size are the fish in question?

gugge · Post by **gugge** » 12 Dec 2003, 06:15

Hi again!

Hmm it seems that we are getting closer to establishing what it is

They(I have 4 of them) are about the same size, 10,5cm i mesured this morning(4 inches?) i allso tried to take a picture om the mouth but they have i tendensy to bury them self in the sand when i turn off the "moonlight" and turn on the light

IÂ´ll try to take a new one when i come home from work!

Only one of them has a "beard" while the others are smooth, the color on them doesÂ´t variate between them att all as far as i can se...

Is the food to be given the same for all these Rineloricaria?(If that is the "family" it belongs to) I have given them alge waffers, shrimp mix to be on the safe side and they have a root i the aqvarium as well, I havet seen the payed any intreset in the root tho...

and again

thanku for helping me to identify this one!

coelacanth · Post by **coelacanth** » 12 Dec 2003, 16:26

gugge wrote:Hmm it seems that we are getting closer to establishing what it is

Where did you get them from? If t was a retailer, do they import from S. America direct or do they go through a wholesaler?
If the former, have a look in some of the other aquaria there, they might have some more very interesting rarities from Argentina and Uruguay.

Post by **Janne** » 12 Dec 2003, 18:51

I think these are from a member in our catfish society here in sweden, collected under a trip to uruguay for some years ago.
If you pm me I can try to help you so you can ask him directly.

Janne

gugge · Post by **gugge** » 12 Dec 2003, 20:28

OK Janne!

Nice to hear!

I Have left you a message!

Tack pÃ¥ fÃ¶rhand!

/Niklas

tauaru · Post by **tauaru** » 19 Dec 2003, 23:20

I have a Rhineloricaria which looks very similar to your fish. I have never seen mine bury himself, I don't know if that information will help but...good luck! Please post what you find out if you find out the full species.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 20 Dec 2003, 10:02

If we're looking at Paraguayan <I>Rineloricaria</I>, then maybe R. pareiacantha, R. felipponei or R. thrissoceps? The first is pictured in Evers and Seidel's Wels atlas but the eye position doesn't look the same and the fish pictured there has a series of lateral black dots not present in this topic's pictures. It does however have a rather distinctive suckermouth.

The other two I have no details on...

Jools

Information About Rineloricaria sp. Centurion? -Pictures

Information About Rineloricaria sp. Centurion? -Pictures

Information About Rineloricaria sp. Centurion?-Pictures

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