Please ID my L Plec's

[redwood]

Two fish bought as wild caught - query on L number - just thought I would get an idea without saying what they were bought as!
Also not sure of sex?
Thanks in advance

[Triactis Trainer]

Is it just me, or does it look like the top one is black with white stripes, and the bottom appears to be white with black scribbles?

[Marine590622]

Is it just me, or does it look like the top one is black with white stripes, and the bottom appears to be white with black scribbles?

No they are both white with clear fins and black stripes over the underlying color.

[Marine590622]

In my humble opinion you need a none of the above option.

[redwood]

In my humble opinion you need a none of the above option.

please enlighten me.....

[dconnors]

What size are these? Striped hypan patterns will change as they age...

[Marine590622]

In my humble opinion you need a none of the above option.

please enlighten me.....

From the pictures posted, I would have to say none of the above options seem like a likely ID.

[redwood]

What size are these? Striped hypan patterns will change as they age...

8 to 9cm long body - looking at the fish and from past experience of older fish with faded colours etc. I would say they are youngish adults?

[redwood]

In my humble opinion you need a none of the above option.

please enlighten me.....

From the pictures posted, I would have to say none of the above options seem like a likely ID.

OK - any ideas which L number or do you think they are hybrids? I understand that many of the similar L numbers could be variants of the same species or are undergoing evolution from sub species to distinct species or even possible that natural hybrids may occur? e.g. like some african lake cichlids and the brown and heckle discus in certain locations?

[Marine590622]

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OK - any ideas which L number or do you think they are hybrids? I understand that many of the similar L numbers could be variants of the same species or are undergoing evolution from sub species to distinct species or even possible that natural hybrids may occur? e.g. like some african lake cichlids and the brown and heckle discus in certain locations?

I am no expert, I was saying based on those pictures and comparing them to the pictures available on this site for the species listed, I would not be inclined to pick any of the species listed. (After, I made my initial comment about needing a none of the above option, someone else pointed out that some of these species change color patterns between juvenile and adult, based on that you could potentially have a juvenile of one of those species that has not changed to it's adult pattern.

[redwood]

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OK - any ideas which L number or do you think they are hybrids? I understand that many of the similar L numbers could be variants of the same species or are undergoing evolution from sub species to distinct species or even possible that natural hybrids may occur? e.g. like some african lake cichlids and the brown and heckle discus in certain locations?

I am no expert, I was saying based on those pictures and comparing them to the pictures available on this site for the species listed, I would not be inclined to pick any of the species listed. (After, I made my initial comment about needing a none of the above option, someone else pointed out that some of these species change color patterns between juvenile and adult, based on that you could potentially have a juvenile of one of those species that has not changed to it's adult pattern.

Thanks for your help - I think they have a bit more growing to do so will wait and see!