LDA064 or L306

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Re: LDA064 or L306

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Borbi wrote:Hi,
Well now i'm lost....It tail really is red. Although i doubt it's a L306
That´s Panaqolus sp. aff. maccus. No L306 (and also no reason to suspect it to be a hybrid).

Cheers,
Sandor

The reason i thought it might be a hybrid is because the head is and the fins being red remind me of the The fins look like this pleco

Couldn't both these species interbreed ? and give us this ?

As far as i know this fish is the parent of the green gravel pictures.

Who knew it'd be so hard to get the L306 I wanted :((
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Who knew it'd be so hard to get the L306 I wanted
Er ... you were told that several times in your other thread.
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racoll wrote:
Who knew it'd be so hard to get the L306 I wanted
Er ... you were told that several times in your other thread.
I thought i would only apply to the United States....not Canada.

And in my defense a seller contacted me because of that other thread how was i suppose to know there L306 were mislabeled or whatever that fish is.
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Ok so does anyone have a I'd for this fella that they are 100% that they know?


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CarlDeller wrote:I thought i would only apply to the United States....not Canada.
They are illegal to export from Brazil, and they are in a remote area that is seldom collected for the ornamental trade. Why would these facts apply only to the USA?
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racoll wrote:
CarlDeller wrote:I thought i would only apply to the United States....not Canada.
They are illegal to export from Brazil, and they are in a remote area that is seldom collected for the ornamental trade. Why would these facts apply only to the USA?

there was some confusion on the other thread about them being banned in the US but after giving it a second look an expert said this
Barbie wrote:I agree with Andy. There is no "ban" on importing plecos to the US. The US enforces other countries restrictions for export list. The problem with that in regards to Brazil is that they don't have a list of what is NOT to be sold, they just have a list of what is allowed to be sold. While it seems very black and white, it has instead created a huge gray area. The fish aren't imported because Brazil doesn't allow them to be exported. This is not because the US has done anything in regards to restriction, as the term ban would imply.

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Racoll do you have an ID for this mislabeled L306 with the new pictures provided ?
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Racoll do you have an ID for this mislabeled L306 with the new pictures provided ?
Borbi wrote:That´s Panaqolus sp. aff. maccus.
Sandor will know better than me, and I can't disagree with his ID, but I'm not sure whether he means or something else when he says "aff. maccus".
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racoll wrote:
Racoll do you have an ID for this mislabeled L306 with the new pictures provided ?
Borbi wrote:That´s Panaqolus sp. aff. maccus.
Sandor will know better than me, and I can't disagree with his ID, but I'm not sure whether he means or something else when he says "aff. maccus".
I wrote "panaqolus sp" in the search bar and was unable to find the Aff. maccus

Thanks for the help guys. I now know that you should always ask for pictures of fish before ordering online. Even if the L# are used.

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racoll wrote: Sandor will know better than me, and I can't disagree with his ID, but I'm not sure whether he means or something else when he says "aff. maccus".
He likelymeans this one: http://www.l-welse.com/reviewpost/showp ... 566/cat/29 (Page in German)
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He likelymeans this one: http://www.l-welse.com/reviewpost/showp ... 566/cat/29 (Page in German)
Now I'm confused! = , so how can they be something different?
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Re: LDA064 or L306

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Hi,

there is a huge variety of local forms of Panaqolus aff. maccus that come out of Colombia and Venezuela.
I have not spent enough time researching their variability (plus the problem of "certified" origin so far for these fish) to definately asign those forms to LDA068, L448 or something similar.
Which is why I tend to call all these forms Panaqolus sp. aff. maccus (the actual Panaqolus maccus is - as you know - extremely rare in the hobby) without resorting to any specific L- or LDA-Number.

Cheers,
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Re: LDA064 or L306

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racoll wrote:
Juicyfish wrote:The green and redish fish is the male adult of the fish on the green gravel
So they came in the same shipment? Where were they imported from, what name were they sold as, and what other species came in that same shipment?

Exported from Colombia. Labelled L306
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