Syno Species ID

mwood322 · Post by **mwood322** » 30 Nov 2003, 22:08

Someone returned this guy, and other than knowing its a syno I'm clueless.

--Mia

magnum4 · Post by **magnum4** » 30 Nov 2003, 23:45

What size is the synodontis?

Post by **Silurus** » 30 Nov 2003, 23:57

Synodontis caudovittatus, I think.

mwood322 · Post by **mwood322** » 01 Dec 2003, 03:45

Between 3 to 5 inches, it has gotten bigger though since I got it.

--Mia

magnum4 · Post by **magnum4** » 01 Dec 2003, 20:48

This is another synodontis which is reminisant of quite a few species my best guess is Synodontis bastiani.

If you want a list of possibles i would be happy to list however you will have troble tracking down reliable pictures.

Post by **Silurus** » 02 Dec 2003, 03:18

Synodontis bastiani is a more slender fish, as in this post.

mwood322 · Post by **mwood322** » 02 Dec 2003, 04:04

Mainly interested in a ballpark guess for adult size, temperment, and water conditions. it seems quite happy in my tank, but I just wonder about how big it will end up.

--Mia

Post by **Silurus** » 02 Dec 2003, 08:59

If it is indeed S. caudovittatus, max size is about 12". Water conditions would be as for S. eupterus.

magnum4 · Post by **magnum4** » 02 Dec 2003, 22:15

S. caudovittatus has a very promenent humeral process, however all examples i have seen have been black with white fins.

Post by **Silurus** » 03 Dec 2003, 11:44

I'm not all that sure it's S. caudovittatus. Might even be a young S. schall, in which case, there's more info about this fish in the Cat-eLog.
I'm almost certain it's a Nilo-Sudanian species, though, as it shows the dark caudal fin stripes of many such species.

Sid Guppy · Post by **Sid Guppy** » 03 Dec 2003, 17:16

I've had juvenile schall years ago, and they're without spots.....quite easy to pick them from a shipment of juvie-nigrita's wich I did.

and they have very light colored whiskers, lighter than their body-color in any case.

The color of juvenile schall is much darker, almost chocolate-brown, but I admit, in a LFS tank with no substrate, wood or plants they'll likely be pale too.

you can do the "schall-test"

It's a BAD MoFo fish. Just add another Syno.
If this one beats the crap out of it, it's definitely "schall-related"

magnum4 · Post by **magnum4** » 03 Dec 2003, 19:54

Synodontis macrops. very close to schall but with lighter colour and spots as a juvenile. information is in the cat-elog but theres no picture yet.

Post by **Silurus** » 04 Dec 2003, 23:51

I am 100% sure it is not S. macrops. Have you seen a picture of the real macrops? It does not look anything like the fish in the picture. Smaller adipose fin. Larger eyes. No spots.
The pic in the Cat-eLog that used to be S. macrops is now S. frontosus. That might be a possibility, but S. frontosus lacks the dark caudal-fin bands.

Heok Hee (on the other side of the lake getting ready for Sumatra)

magnum4 · Post by **magnum4** » 05 Dec 2003, 00:28

Have you seen a picture of the real macrops? It does not look anything like the fish in the picture. Smaller adipose fin. Larger eyes. No spots.

my experience and references led me to belive, Macrops looks exactly like schall except the colouration is lighter. I know about the large eyes however the fish pictured is still a juvenile.

Post by **Silurus** » 05 Dec 2003, 01:01

Macrops looks exactly like schall

No, it doesn't.

magnum4 · Post by **magnum4** » 05 Dec 2003, 18:22

Heok hee do you have a picture or know of a text book with an accurate picture of S macrops?

Post by **Silurus** » 05 Dec 2003, 20:26

There is a picture of one of the types in Poll. Since I am on the wrong side of the Pacific Ocean at the moment, I will post the pic when I return to the US 6 January.

mwood322 · Post by **mwood322** » 13 Jan 2005, 05:39

Wow did time pass since I first posted this guy.

Well he's pushing 7 inches now, and keeps growing, though his pattern has changed a bit, thought I'd update. He's also way more outgoing now with bigger fish for tankmates.

--Mia

Post by **Silurus** » 13 Jan 2005, 10:38

I think this is S. resupinatus.