LDA 105 and L273 collection habitats

[Littleg902]

I posted this on MFK but figured this would be the place to get info. Can anyone tell me where the main collection point of most L273 and LDA 105 are and the coinciding habitat(ex. water depth caught, river bed type, season, etc.). I'm having trouble finding any info on this. I heard they are both deep water plecos, but that's about it.

[Littleg902]

Bump...

[MatsP]

As far as I can tell, LDA105 is from "unknown place" - L273 is from Rio Tapajos, but that's a big river.

Unfortunately fishermen that catch valuable fish, and compared to most tropical fish, most Pseudacanthicus are valuable - I expect the fishermen get at least $10 per fish, compared to a handful of dollars for 1000 fish when it comes to corys for example - aren't well known for detailing exactly WHERE they catch the fish. Which makes understanding more about the fish hard.

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Mats

[Jools]

As Mats says, it's not really known. But fishermen get at least $10 per Pseudacanthicus? That a lot more than in my experience.

Jools

[Acanthicus]

Hi guys,

apparently LDA 105 is from Rio Jamanxim.

[Jools]

Didn't know that Daniel, where did that info come from? A good source?

Jools

[HaakonH]

We got that info from a Brazilian scientist who's quite dedicated to the genus, so it's likely to be correct

Haakon

[MatsP]

As Mats says, it's not really known. But fishermen get at least $10 per Pseudacanthicus? That a lot more than in my experience.

Jools

Scobinancistrus aureatus are $2.50 each (at decent size). These cost about 3x more than S. aureatus of similar size. Price difference comes from export price difference, as shipping doesn't "care" what's in the box, just what the weight is. I'm just surmising of course, I've not met a fisherman that catches these particular fish. Either way, my point is that they are rather unusual fish that are more valuable than "common fish", so the fishermen may not be forthcoming with information about exactly where they come from.

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Mats

[Jools]

We got that info from a Brazilian scientist who's quite dedicated to the genus, so it's likely to be correct

I had hoped it would be something like that. I think that data is good enough to go in the cat-eLog, thanks for clarifying.

Jools

[MatsP]

I've updated the data sheet of LDA105.

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Mats

[Littleg902]

Very interesting. Thanks for the responses.

[dconnors]

Does anyone how deep the Jamanxim gets? The reason I ask is I was told they come from very deep water. How many people are trying to breed the LDA105?

[HaakonH]

I can try asking around and see what I find out about the river.

At the moment I don't think there are many breeding attepts for LDA105. The price is simply too high. Most of them end up in Asia, so maybe someone is trying there? I'm working on a plot to get it done though, with some help from my partners in crime ;)

Haakon

[OlePaulsen]

I know at least one person that try know in europe. Would be great with success!

[Littleg902]

On unungy's site it is stated that the fisherman command high prices for single fish as only a few are caught because they dwell in deep water, and are very hard to target. I'm not sure which river the batch was harvested from, though.