synodontis njassae is this right. help

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synodontis njassae is this right. help

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I need help to find out if this is a synodontis Njassae catfish thanks dennis
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This is NOT njassae

It looks like ocellifer although the spots are incredibly evenly spaced & prominent. It could well be a hybrid.
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Ahhh ok thanks for the fast reply would better pics help you with this fish
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A pic exactly side on might help
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Actually I'm certain this is a hybrid due to the spotting on the head
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Side on photo of my little monster with and without flash.... and how much would you say I can sell it for if I was going to sell it..
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Could be a farm-raised ocellifer...what I see though is the humeral process should be slightly concave at the upper margin this one is straight...small difference.

Lots of spots...just seems a little off.

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Keeping in mind Richard and Birger are great syno experts and I am two orders of magnitude below, I tend to think it is a hybrid; an unusually evenly and prominently spotted one.

Is it known that ocellier is farmed?

If you were to try to trade it in at a US LFS, the LFS would give you $5-$15 and they would try to sell it for $15-$45, most likely they'd give you ~$10 and try to sell it for ~$30 (standard mark-up), pretty much regardless of whether it is an ocellifer or a hybrid because vast majority of the buyers buy based on looks and, sadly, looks alone.
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Is it known that ocellier is farmed?
They are most likely hormone bred but not everything hormone bred is a hybrid, there are some real species being done.

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Right. So, obviously not for food but for ornamental trade? If yes, is it done in SE Asia, SA, Africa, or Eastern Europe (perhaps combining it with hybrid production)?

Just wondering what you know or at least currently think...
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Hormone produced genuine species are being produced in Europe , not sure about elsewhere though
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I agree this is a hybrid.
Birger wrote:
Is it known that ocellier is farmed?
They are most likely hormone bred but not everything hormone bred is a hybrid, there are some real species being done.

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They have bred ocellifer at Germany years ago but there is no market for this species anymore. I think most of the genuine hormone bred synos comes from eastern europe. At the moment there is at least these genuine hormone bred synos: , , and .
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Post by bassgenie »

In my opinion, Its not Njassae as I keep a wild pair. This doesn't look like either the small or large spotted Variant to me. Both the Spotting and Body shape arent correct. Best of Luck. Pretty cat either way.
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