new fish tank

[Viktor Jarikov]

You provide fish lists without asking questions. So I guessed your questions are about 1. and 2. and, as we established, not about the sizes anymore.

[CatfishPownage63]

ok i get it and yes your right by saying that i have little questions i also was looking at a chaca chaca and all my fish use to eat 4 cubes of frozen booldworms 3 cubes of beefheart and 15 sinking carnivor pellets every night and now they are skinny and don't even eat two of each frozen food and 5 carnivor pellets HELP!!!

[Viktor Jarikov]

Sounds possibly like an internal parasitic infestation. If you convince yourself that this might be one cause, I'd try a nice, safe dewormer, like praziquantel.

[CatfishPownage63]

great whare can i get one

[Viktor Jarikov]

Any LFS. A prepared med PraziPro is popular. I bought 1 kilo of pure praziquantel from Fishman Chemicals.

IMO you need to make sure that this more than a shot in the dark, as I tried to say before. Collect more opinions and to do that provide a better description and adequate-quality photos of the entire tanks and the fish affected.

[CatfishPownage63]

well i don't know why he wasn't but i put food in there last night and now he all better and i'am getting rid of my green terror and peacock eel

[CatfishPownage63]

could i keep my 2

horabagrus brachysoma

and my jack dempsey with

liosomadoras oncinus

,

chrysichthys ornatus

,

goeldiella eques

,

L128

,

L200

,

ompok siluroides

and 3 tinfoil barbs in a 82 gallon tank?

[Viktor Jarikov]

As babies and juvies, I tend to think so, making sure that the size differences don't let someone eat/attempt to eat someone else. Keeping in mind I have little idea about JD and L#s.

If starting from babies, it would be perhaps 2-4 years before I'd start thinking about upgrading.

[Bas Pels]

If starting from babies, it would be perhaps 2-4 years before I'd start thinking about upgrading.

I read on page 2 the topic starter is 12, perhaps 13

That will imply he will be 17 in 4 years time, and therefore upgrading will still be determined by his parents

I have no clue about them, but found out many parents are quite hard to convince a tank needs upgrading - mine were, but also most parents I read about on forums.

Generally we say it is better to first get the tank, and than let the fish grow into it - because regardless what happens (people can get unemployed, for instance) the larger tank has been taken care of. I think in this case, where options will be determined by parents, this wisdom might be more needed.

Thus, I'd advise (your tank is 48 inches long and 20 inches broad) not to get fishes whch grow over 4 inshes. Examples of suitable fish might be seen amongst Brachyrhamdia - these have the same long wiskers as Pimelodus have.

[CatfishPownage63]

well bas pels it is 48 in. long 20in.broad and also 25 in.tall also to that list i would like to add a banded leporinus also bas that is parent i live with my mom and she is picky when it comes to money and on our tank stand the biggest tank we can put on there has to be 55 in. or less so i could possibably upgrade to a 100 or 110 gallon tank

[CatfishPownage63]

hello?

[Richard B]

banded leporinus

- hmm sounds like trouble in all but the largest tanks as these can be 'nippy' and bully certain fish that they take a dislike to.

[CatfishPownage63]

yes i'am aware of this but the best thing to do would probably be scratch the leporinus and get a different fish i was thinking a

sorubim lima

because i'am getting rid of my J.D and G.T

[CatfishPownage63]

guess what guys i got a 5.5 in.

sorubim lima

yesterday and he is already eating frozen bloodworms and beef heart

[CatfishPownage63]

hey guy could my 2

horabagrus brachysoma

and my

sorubim lima

be okay with 2 silver datnoids (American Tiger),a delhezi bichir,

liosomadoras oncinus

,and a

ompok siluroides

live together in my 82 gallon tank

[Richard B]

I know nothing about datnoids. The fish you mention seem a reasonable mix but sorobim prefer to be in groups & can be easily spooked or worried by inquisitive tankmates. You may need to keep a close eye on them

[Viktor Jarikov]

...sorobim prefer to be in groups...

so do suncats IMO

Overall, sounds like a doable experiment... with babies and juvies.

[CatfishPownage63]

sounds like a doable experiment... with babies and juvies.

why whats wrong with keeping them into adulhood?

[CatfishPownage63]

sorobim prefer to be in groups & can be easily spooked or worried by inquisitive tankmates.

funny, he dose not sound like this, he dances as if he was a glass catfish and i have accidentally bumped the tank and he didn't even flinch

also what do you mean by inquisitive tankmates

[Viktor Jarikov]

why whats wrong with keeping them into adulhood?

I don't wanna keep rubbing it in... but you know what - your tank size.

sorobim prefer to be in groups & can be easily spooked or worried by inquisitive tankmates.

funny, he dose not sound like this, he dances as if he was a glass catfish and i have accidentally bumped the tank and he didn't even flinch

also what do you mean by inquisitive tankmates

Give it some time. They are skittish, in general, esp. when small(ish), but your first indications hold promise.

Tankmates that like checking out things and other tankmates, e.g., with their barbels or what they taste like or what they are doing in their territory, etc.

[CatfishPownage63]

hey guy could my 2

horabagrus brachysoma

and my

sorubim lima

be okay with 2 silver datnoids (American Tiger),a delhezi bichir,

liosomadoras oncinus

,and a

ompok siluroides

live together in my 82 gallon tank

the biggest tank i can keep on the stand that i have can't be more than 60" L by 20" W by 25" T because my mom dose not want to spend more money on a tank stand so the biggest tank i can put on the would probaly be a 125 gallon tank which should be good into adulthood right? but now anywho the next step is to convince her to get the tank. if i can

[CatfishPownage63]

hello?

[Viktor Jarikov]

What can we help you with?

[CatfishPownage63]

sorry i was trying to ask would 125 gallon would be enough for those fish?

[Viktor Jarikov]

I thought you already had your 83 gal running, no?

Sure 125 gal would be better but you know my opinion about the proper tank sizing, so I cannot add anything more, besides you chose a different point of view for yourself where the width of the tank can be close to the length of your fish - something you are certianly entitled to choose. We can only advise.

So, what I am trying to say is that I hope others will chime in because I dont see what else I can add to answer your last question.

Please, don't read hostility in this, only logic: I wish nothing but good and the best to you, CatfishPownage!

[CatfishPownage63]

yes i'am running my 83 gallon but i wanted to convince my mom get me a 125 because that is the biggest tank my sand can hold,but the dimensions have to be 60 in. L by 20 in. L by 25 in. T because I'm so little i can barley reach the bottom of my tank also those are the exact dimensions of my stand, except my stand is 36 in. T

[DBam]

I'm not that familiar with standard tank dimensions outside of the regularly encountered tanks, but a 125gal tank that stays 20" or less in width and does not exceed 60" can only increase in height. With the species you're interested in, the footprint of the tank is what's most important. A 4x2x2' 120 gallon is the next size up in width in common tanks, but is outside of your maximum allowable tank size. That 125 you're talking about would likely be expensive due to the height of the glass, and may not give you more freedom in stocking than what you have now.

Tank dimensions aside, do you still have the cichlids and eel or have you moved those out?

[Viktor Jarikov]

60 in. L by 20 in. L by 25 in. T

My "120 tall" is 60x18x25. I too would much prefer a larger footprint at the expense of the diminished height for my tank. Sounds like not an option for the OP.

[CatfishPownage63]

do you still have the cichlids and eel or have you moved those out?

no i do not because my cichlids died the day before i was going to get rid of them and my sun cat tried to eat my eel so i got rid of him

[DBam]

Do you have any clear indication of why the cichlids died?