Pseudotropius?

[The.Dark.One]

I think this is a Pseudotropius species. But if so, not certain which one.

[Birger]

Pseudeutropius brachypopterus

??

Shipped from?

Birger

[The.Dark.One]

Hi Birger.

It was at the CAS show and the owner has had it many years, so the origin is unknown unfortunately.

The one in my pic seems to have more anal fin rays that the ones in the clog? I was thinking

Pseudeutropius moolenburghae

?

[Birger]

I was thinking Pseudeutropius moolenburghae?

I can see that...I did not notice before moolenburghae also has the couple of dark barbels (if that even means anything)

Birger

[Laguviashawi]

O Dark One,

did you consider Neotropius khavalchor ? Years ago I had sent some across to the UK and maybe ......

[The.Dark.One]

Thanks, I will check it out

[medaka]

did you consider Neotropius khavalchor ? Years ago I had sent some across to the UK

HI Andrew.

Some years ago I came across some catfish that resembled the first photo. They were being sold as

Pseudeutropius moolenburghae

with the guy in the shop saying that they had come in direct from India, and I at the time had reason to believe that the supplier was your good-self. (The LFS in question is located in the North West of England) I purchased a small group of these and after allowing them to settle in for a week or two I set out to try on confirm identity; which if my memory serves me well proved a tad irksome at the time, as to me they looked similar to P moolenburghae but I had enough doubt that I would not give them a positive 'tag'. Can you remember if the shop that you dispatched N khavalchor too was situated in the NW of England as there was a shop of some renown at that time that attracted many people from the area and county around where Steve's can often be found judging at fish shows or organising one.

[Laguviashawi]

Hi Adrian,

My knowledge of the geography of England isn't good I'm afraid so really would not know which places fall under which direction

I used to then supply to three transhippers, Benair, Miss Fish and Pedigree but they used to only provide initials for their sub orders. But I had clearly mentioned in my Invoice N. khavalchor.

Like you and at that time I really did not have much arsenal at my disposal to correctly key out the species but certain congeners matched, as well as the locality where found. I just got a group that one time from the Bhadra river near Shimoga, Karnataka.

All I can say is those fish match Steve's pic. It would be heartening to note that any survived all these years and if so great fish keeping and great fish too

[The.Dark.One]

I think Adrian may be referring to BAS at Bolton?

Thinking about it, the barbels on this fish are very short for Pseudotropius moolenburghae, so perhaps it could be Neotropius? I'll try and check what the generic differences are. Anyone know to save me checking?

[Shovelnose]

I am not sure what the difference between Neotropius and Pseudeutropius is but Pseudeutropius should have 2 tooth patches.



Pseudeutropius mitchelli

Neotropius khavalchor as pictured here : http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... neotropius and here : http://www.threatenedtaxa.org/ZooPrintJ ... 0-2317.pdf seems to be a species with its upper jaw teeth present outside its mouth. I think this is the easiest way to identify this species.

Maybe Mo's book has relevant information???