Really a L333?

[Jaz]

We have had a group of though to be L333 for few years now. Now I'm trying to fine some more of them, so I need to know if this really is L333? Bought both males and females from different sellers, both were sold as L333.

Here is a pic of the female, males are almost double the size. And also a pic of 1 juvenile.

[eyal8a]

Hi
I cant be 100% by these pic's, but...
The first one seems to be L129 or 270 ( to me is seems more 129)
The 2nd one looks like a L066 but , once again i cant be sure for 100%
if you can upload some more pic's it will be great

Hope i could help more

[Jaz]

The first is a juvenile from the second, so its definitely not L129 His dad is almost 15cm long.
I'll get some more pics when I get home.

[Zeno]

If the first is a juvinele from the second, it looks you have to consider the possibility of a hybrid form.

Greetz, Zeno

[Jaz]

Keep in mind that the kid was around 4cm long.

But anyways, I'll take some more pics from the group. Pattern from males and the female looks the same, only real difference is in the size. Males are alot bigger. And the males ofc have alot of hair.

[eyal8a]

Now that im near my ipad the pic are more big & good to see
The first one looks like L333 but can also be L340 by the texture...
The 2nd is still looks like L066 or L260 to me.

But once again, lets wait for some more pics..

[djtonyel]

L-411 looks to me

[HaakonH]

Young L333 have broader black markings than adults, so don't worry about that. The second (adult) fish can be L333, but it would be nice to see it from a bit of a different angle. L333 has a high-backed, compact body. The size you tell of for the male fits the L333 bill, as L333 is among the larger Hypancistrus forms. I say these can well be l333, but would like to see some more pics to be sure

Haakon

[Jaz]

Here is the male. Its around 15 cm long. Had another female before, it was as big as the males.

They are definitely not L129, L260, L270 or L340 thats for sure. They all fall alot too short.

L66 or L411 comes near, but they are both also a bit short and I've seen L66 juveniles and they don't look like mine. L411 seems to have alot of that hair in the body. None of these have that.

[HaakonH]

To me these don't have the bodyshape L333 is known for, and the caudal fin of the male also has a very different shape from common L333. They can in fact be L066, which also grow as big as 15 cm. But then again, these could also be the result of an accidental crossbreeding, which COULD explain the unusual combination of traits seen in them. Do you know if they are wild caught or captive-bred?

Haakon

[Jaz]

As far as I know these are F1's bred by a guy who imports fishes himself.

I had my thoughts of these being L66 until I saw few of them myself. They just don't look alike. The base ain't that white and the stripes in the finns are not straight.

It's impossible to measure, but few of those males look even longer than the one I photographed.

[eyal8a]

As far as I know these are F1's bred by a guy who imports fishes himself.

I had my thoughts of these being L66 until I saw few of them myself. They just don't look alike. The base ain't that white and the stripes in the finns are not straight.

It's impossible to measure, but few of those males look even longer than the one I photographed.

Bro, you ask if your fish can be other than L333
And for every time you got a differnt answer , you always said that all of us are mistaken
So what are you asking ??
All we do is try to figure out what it is but every time you keep saying its 333

[bassgenie]

Doesnt look like my 333's

[Jaz]

Sorry eyal but if you suggest that my 15cm hypancistrus is a L129 I need to say that it just can't be no matter what the pattern looks like. And I'm not only saying that it's L333, I'm saying what they can't be.

I have seen many variations of L333, L66 and other similar looking plecos, just waiting if someone have some that looks like mine and can be sure what they are.

[eyal8a]

Sorry eyal but if you suggest that my 15cm hypancistrus is a L129 I need to say that it just can't be no matter what the pattern looks like. And I'm not only saying that it's L333, I'm saying what they can't be.

I have seen many variations of L333, L66 and other similar looking plecos, just waiting if someone have some that looks like mine and can be sure what they are.

Jaz dont misunderstand me bro'
And by the way i correct myself & said that it is not L129!!
Im just say what ever people here try to say, you keep call off their option...
What ever we say you always say "no its L333"
I cant be sure about the first pic, but the 2nd is 100% not a L333

Im with you bro, and realy want you to know that im to want to know what are the
Dont be angry with me
Sorry if i did so

[wet-handed]

66

[racoll]

Clearly

L066

. The juvenile and the adult are almost identical to those pictured in the cat-elog, e.g. here.

I'm beginning to wonder if

L333

really exists? I reckon only 1 in 10 of the "L333" posted on the forum are even close. This is L333.

[Jaz]

I'm not angry, more likely amused. I've seen quite alot of plecos and just thought I'll call out the impossible ones. Sorry if it offended you.

What ever we say you always say "no its L333"

If you go through my posts, I haven't said this even once.


Thanks Haakon for good points. The variety of fish you get if you google L66 or L333 is quite enormous. I think there are some pics that you get with both searches. So it's no wonder people get confused. Then again, those L66's I have seen, might have been something else.

[Jaz]

Case closed, thanks racoll.

[plecoboy]

The male is definately L66 (beautiful tail, I might add.)
The female is probably L66 (tail not as nice, but pattern seems right)

I have a similar group. The fry over 1 inch turn a real nice yellow. Here is a couple pics of my fry:

[teng]

To me doesn't look 333 also. In my opinion, looking at the body from sideview and tail shape look like L066.