Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

[Marc van Arc]

There has never been a Centromochlus strigata; they were described as Tatia strigata from the start (there is thus no synonym).

@ Arjan Kruseman: I replaced "spawned" in your posting by "mated" for I don't think you meant you now have a bunch of strigata eggs.
If you do , I'll change it back an you can say "Ni" to me till 2 weeks after Easter

[Marc van Arc]

Unless you, Alex, I have not seen the Ageneiosus sp blue at Neil's in 2010, but when I compare my sp.green stripe with the picture of sp. blue they look very much alike.
If they are the same species, it's just too bad one exporter calls it "blue" whereas another calls it "green".....
They're doing fine btw. The tank itself is very (too) quiet atm -)

[kruseman]

@ Arjan Kruseman: I replaced "spawned" in your posting by "mated" for I don't think you meant you now have a bunch of strigata eggs.
:

I'm sorry...My April foolsjokes get worse every year.

After releasing the 3 I haven't seen them again, what probably is a good thing.

[Marc van Arc]

I think this is enough proof that both Neil's specimens and mine are the same:

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According to Walsh, this is the "real" Ageneiosus atronasus

Copyright upper photo: Neil Woodward.

[sidguppy]

that's good to know,
that it's not going to be a marmoratus sized baby whale monster.....

in my minds eye Neil's and yours looked quite different, perhaps it was the lack of color in the bag that threw me off
;)

[Marc van Arc]

Don't forget it has been nearly 2 years ago since you saw Neil's specimens! No-one is blaming you for that.
This species has a (nasty) habit of tipping over easily, which would make it absolutely unfit for Arjan Kruseman. And to be honest, even I would like them to stop doing this.

I added some Phenacogrammus today and as usual they looked somewhat bigger in the shop. All 10 equal about half a Triportheus and I certainly hope I won't be feeding rather expensively tonight......

[kruseman]

They coloured up nicely, Marc.
So the ones in your smaller tank are in fact cf atronasus and not the real ones. These look quite different indeed.

I just scooped out one dead Denticetopsis I bought saturday. The poor little fellow was probably too stressed out after being pulled out of his little piece of wood by the shopemployee. I feel bad.

The 3 Tatia strigata on the other hand are doing well. I bought a second shrimphotel this afternoon( 6 clay tubes glued on top of each other).
All my small Auchenipterids love to hide in 'm.

I'll try to make some pictures coming weekend.

[Marc van Arc]

This species has a (nasty) habit of tipping over easily, which would make it absolutely unfit for Arjan Kruseman. And to be honest, even I would like them to stop doing this.

Have a look....

The black patches on the chin gave them their name (atronasus = black nose). But, to make things complicated, cf atronasus has that to an even further extent.


That's really too bad wrt the Denticetopsis. Let's hope the ones in the large tank are still doing fine. Your Tatia/Centromochlus will certainly enjoy their "appartments"; I'm sure of that. You must feel like a landlord

[Phyllonemus]

Marc, gratz with the Ageneiosus sp 3 "green stripe".

Very weird behaviour from that Ageneiosus atronasus om the picture above.
Does this happen often on Ageneiosus Marc ?

I've seen this weird behaviour with

Centromochlus heckeli

, they almost look if the're dead, a few moments later they will swim again.

Marc, are the Ageneiosus atronasus and the Ageneiosus cf. atronasus in the same tank ?

[Marc van Arc]

Actually, after some reading and comparing I've become quite convinced the Ageneiosus sp.blue/sp green stripe = Ageneiosus atronasus
AND
Ageneiosus cf. atronasus = Ageneiosus brevis.

[Acanthicus]

Hi,

Very weird behaviour from that Ageneiosus atronasus om the picture above.
Does this happen often on Ageneiosus Marc ?

I don´t know much about Marcs fish, but mine do this all the time. That´s why they really made me getting crazy in the beginning. You look into the tank, and OH MY GOD: three of five seem dead. But actually, they are just "hanging around".

[The.Dark.One]

My Tatia sp E male http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... _sp_e4.jpg

is taking chunks out of the tail of a much chunkier Trachelyopterus sp G female http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... _sp_g4.jpg

The only aggressive Tatia I have come across so far!

[Marc van Arc]

Actually, after some reading and comparing I've become quite convinced the Ageneiosus sp.blue/sp green stripe = Ageneiosus atronasus
AND
Ageneiosus cf. atronasus = Ageneiosus brevis.

What do you think of this, Steve? When looking at the C-log picture of A. brevis, I see a pale, male specimen of A. cf. atronasus.

Wrt agressive Tatia: my intermedia were quite agressive amongst each other, but they never attacked other woodcats afaicr. So you have a scoop, although I can imagine you're not too happy about it(?).

[Marc van Arc]

Very weird behaviour from that Ageneiosus atronasus on the picture above.
Does this happen often with Ageneiosus?
Are the Ageneiosus atronasus and the Ageneiosus cf. atronasus in the same tank ?

Some do, but not all. My A. sp 3 never do this and I can't recall the A. magoi doing this in the past.
However, Tetranematichthys did it constantly and the tiny ones up to now known as cf. atronasus do it as well.

Both species are in the same tank, although I have 3 cf. specimens in the small tank. I bought them from Arjan Kruseman a few weeks ago and concluded they were yet too small for the large tank.

I will now go to the Suggestions forum to propose a switch/new entry, so we can all start using the proper names.

[The.Dark.One]

Actually, after some reading and comparing I've become quite convinced the Ageneiosus sp.blue/sp green stripe = Ageneiosus atronasus
AND
Ageneiosus cf. atronasus = Ageneiosus brevis.

What do you think of this, Steve? When looking at the C-log picture of A. brevis, I see a pale, male specimen of A. cf. atronasus.

Wrt agressive Tatia: my intermedia were quite agressive amongst each other, but they never attacked other woodcats afaicr. So you have a scoop, although I can imagine you're not too happy about it(?).

Hi Marc
I'll have a look and comment on the other thread but I'm not gemmed up on Ageneiosus.

Yeah, not happy at all (

[sojapat]

Steve I find that when you feed the fish that they do not try to eat each other .
I know funds are tight in Yorkshire but they should stretch to a few eathworms (Niiiight Crawllllerrs as they say in America)
Sorry now you can continue about the Ageniosus.

[The.Dark.One]

Steve I find that when you feed the fish that they do not try to eat each other .
I know funds are tight in Yorkshire but they should stretch to a few eathworms (Niiiight Crawllllerrs as they say in America)
Sorry now you can continue about the Ageniosus.

lol! You bugger!

[Marc van Arc]

[Marc van Arc]

I added some Phenacogrammus today and as usual they looked somewhat bigger in the shop. All 10 equal about half a Triportheus and I certainly hope I won't be feeding rather expensively tonight......

Four nights have past, four Phenacogrammus have disappeared..... all females btw, most likely because they are more slender.
Anyway, should have found myself some larger specimens.

[sojapat]

Hi, Here are the latest .Is it the same.


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And another nice fella

[The.Dark.One]

Nice cats Neil.

BTW the male Tatia has settled down a bit with the aggression, and he's just eaten 5 earthworms out of my fingers.

[Marc van Arc]

Nice pictures - and fishes - indeed -).
The last picture looks like Entomocorus radiosus, but if so they have to be small. Are they?
The first picture is the same species as the one that is currently known as Ageneiosus cf atronasus and not - sorry to say - to my pictured specimen which I believe you were refering to?

[The.Dark.One]

The last picture looks like Entomocorus radiosus, but if so they have to be small. Are they?

I think they are the Auchenipterus he has in?

http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... chalis.jpg

[Marc van Arc]

Ah, that makes sense. The large eyes, the caudal patterning and the lack of knowledge about its size misguided me.
You must be right, Steve.

[kruseman]

Tatia strigata and C. axelrodi feeding on Daphnia


Spinipterus acsi

[Marc van Arc]

Oh, those strigata. How lovely they look. And good old Spinipterus as well, of course.

[Marc van Arc]

Meanwhile I've found a species to do the "gardening" in the tank. Although no auchenipterid, I'll introduce them here: Trachydoras steindachneri

[Marc van Arc]

Have a look at the very small mouth with feathered maxillary barbels.

[The.Dark.One]

Very nice! I've been after some of these for a while

[Bijn]

Trachelyopterus galeatus