How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
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How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
With all the crazy restrictions on planes flying in the U.S. how can you get your fish home from a collection trip? Has anyone done this recently?
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Re: How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
I think this is only possible if you have all the paperwork in order; since this isn't cheap I think that's why only larger companies have the permets to do so
other countries are easier when it comes to individuals collecting fish and bringing them home; Panama, Mexico, Colombia perhaps
but Brazil ain't as easy as far as I know (which is little)
other countries are easier when it comes to individuals collecting fish and bringing them home; Panama, Mexico, Colombia perhaps
but Brazil ain't as easy as far as I know (which is little)
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Re: How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
I'm pretty certain the "easy" method of doing this is to find a company that can export your fish on their license (aside from the obvious but illegal methods that may end with you in Brazilian jail - and I don't think that's a nice place at all).
Given that Brazil is quite a bueareucratic country, and it wouldn't surprise me if it takes months to get a license - and that you have to apply in person and pay various "service charges".
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Given that Brazil is quite a bueareucratic country, and it wouldn't surprise me if it takes months to get a license - and that you have to apply in person and pay various "service charges".
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Re: How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
I have been working on doing this for the last three years and seven trips to southern Brazil. That aside I will give you the short bullet points. I have yet to succeed.
1. You need to get a US import/export permit. (took me 10 months the first time)
2. You need to hook up with a Brazilian exporter or someone who handles 'crazy American fishing expeditions' as they call them in Brazil. Exporters typically have large min orders to process export papers.
3. If you collect the fish yourself (a permit is needed?) or buy them in Brazil, you can take them on some carriers as checked baggage others have to go as freight.
4. You have to land in a 'Port of Entry', there are not as many due to budget cuts, with ADVANCE notice so they can have Fish and Game there. There is a minimum $100 process charge.
5. You then have to recheck the boxes if you have a connecting flight.
That is the nuts and bolts of the task. There are a lot of importers in Florida can you hookup with one?
It is a lot of work for a nubie. My last 2 trips were during the off season and the one before that the Brazilian F&W were on strike. Thru my Brazilian friends I was able to talk with exporters but there were too many obstacles at the time.
Maybe next trip.
1. You need to get a US import/export permit. (took me 10 months the first time)
2. You need to hook up with a Brazilian exporter or someone who handles 'crazy American fishing expeditions' as they call them in Brazil. Exporters typically have large min orders to process export papers.
3. If you collect the fish yourself (a permit is needed?) or buy them in Brazil, you can take them on some carriers as checked baggage others have to go as freight.
4. You have to land in a 'Port of Entry', there are not as many due to budget cuts, with ADVANCE notice so they can have Fish and Game there. There is a minimum $100 process charge.
5. You then have to recheck the boxes if you have a connecting flight.
That is the nuts and bolts of the task. There are a lot of importers in Florida can you hookup with one?
It is a lot of work for a nubie. My last 2 trips were during the off season and the one before that the Brazilian F&W were on strike. Thru my Brazilian friends I was able to talk with exporters but there were too many obstacles at the time.
Maybe next trip.
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Re: How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
If we are dealing with the south of Brasil - these fishes will not differ much from those in Uruguay, and Uruguay is much easier where it comes to exporting fish.
I went there a few times, for contacts, see www.aqvaterra.com (slow site).
Obviously, this stil leaves the US part
I went there a few times, for contacts, see www.aqvaterra.com (slow site).
Obviously, this stil leaves the US part
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Re: How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
I was thinkig it would be nice to go out and see what I can find in the wild. Here in Florida getting an importers license is pretty easy, just fill out the papers and pay the fee. Knowing what I was going to bring home ahead of time would be a little tricky because it would depend on what I find. My biggest fear is that I get there and everyone has a hand out and I have to pay off 20 different people to get my fish home.
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Re: How do you bring home fish from Brazil to the U.S.
If not handled by someone else, you also need to fill out a Fish and Wildlife form (Form 3-177).PseudaSmart wrote:I have been working on doing this for the last three years and seven trips to southern Brazil. That aside I will give you the short bullet points. I have yet to succeed.
1. You need to get a US import/export permit. (took me 10 months the first time)
2. You need to hook up with a Brazilian exporter or someone who handles 'crazy American fishing expeditions' as they call them in Brazil. Exporters typically have large min orders to process export papers.
3. If you collect the fish yourself (a permit is needed?) or buy them in Brazil, you can take them on some carriers as checked baggage others have to go as freight.
4. You have to land in a 'Port of Entry', there are not as many due to budget cuts, with ADVANCE notice so they can have Fish and Game there. There is a minimum $100 process charge.
5. You then have to recheck the boxes if you have a connecting flight.
That is the nuts and bolts of the task. There are a lot of importers in Florida can you hookup with one?
It is a lot of work for a nubie. My last 2 trips were during the off season and the one before that the Brazilian F&W were on strike. Thru my Brazilian friends I was able to talk with exporters but there were too many obstacles at the time.
Maybe next trip.
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