L70, Zombie pleco

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L70, Zombie pleco

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Had these for about 3 weeks now. Just put them in my breeding set up. They've been in quarantine for 2 weeks.
Since yesterday they already started to show spawning activity :d Still a bit under weight but doing ok, lot's of good feed and water changes will get them into shape.

Here's a video of today. They've been at it for 2 days now b-)

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jac, Great:)

Thanks for sharing the video.

I'm glad that more and more pleco keepers start keeping L070. I also want to buy but a group of it. I'm wating when it is avaliable in sale from breeder.
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I got a group from Germany. I harly see mine, but I plan to build some slate hides/caves for them...

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Hi!

Are these Hyps in the video still in the quarantine tank?

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Hi!!!

nice to read that you got some adults

I also got 10 youngs since November!!
Doing good!!:-)
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Now that a few people are keeping these, we could certainly do with more photos of in the Cat-eLog...
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Thanks all!

@Johni, the fish have been out of quarantine for 6 days now.

@Racoll, I agree. Specially the fry pics shown, they look emaciated... I will do my best to contribute to some more pictures of these fish. If that's ok.
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jac wrote:@Racoll, I agree. Specially the fry pics shown, they look emaciated...
It took me quite a long time to make them look better. They hatched during my 3 weeks holiday, so they didn´t get any food in the beginnig and the father didn´t let them out of the cave. When I came back I saw them like pictured in the photo. The following youngsters looked much better.

@Yann: Glad you like them.

@Mats: Same with mine, but even if they don´t show up they grow quite fast.

I am going to make some new pictures of mine as well.
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Acanthicus wrote:
jac wrote:@Racoll, I agree. Specially the fry pics shown, they look emaciated...
It took me quite a long time to make them look better. They hatched during my 3 weeks holiday, so they didn´t get any food in the beginnig and the father didn´t let them out of the cave. When I came back I saw them like pictured in the photo. The following youngsters looked much better.
Ok, that explains why they look like that. If it was me, I wouldn't have send in those pictures but waited until they looked healthy and well fed.
Looking forward to seeing some more fry pics if you have some :d
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Hi,

I don´t have any more pics. That time I didn´t even had a good camera, so taking pictures wasn´t so much fun. You can see some more of my 70´s on l-welse.com (http://www.l-welse.com/reviewpost/showp ... product/82), taken by the one who bought my entire group. The L 70 from Mats and Yann are offspring of mine.


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This morning I found my first Zombie eggs :d :d
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jac wrote:This morning I found my first Zombie eggs :d :d
Great work.

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Awesome! Congrats, it's such a cool pleco!
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Very nice! I hope we get some of them in Canada too.


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Well, that first spawn got eaten by dad.
I transfered the fish to a bigger tank seeing they were already old enough to spawn.
They are a little bit more aggressive now than before. Females claim there bit of hiding space quite fears! Males are all in caves.

Since last night the male has another batch of eggs. So let's see what this time brings :d
I have separated him with his cave from the group this time.

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Nice work jac b-)
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They are really oddballs :d

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I've learned something new this morning.
I've spawned many hypancistrus (L46, L66, L174, L199, L201, L260, L270, L316, L340, L400) but never ever did hatching take longer than 4 days.
My Zombie male had his 3 spawn (first 2 failed) and it felt like it took for ever. Even started to think the eggs were infertile because they looked a bit white (like L46 can do). The male was still fanning so I didn't do anything yet.
This morning I went to feed the fish and got a nice surprise :d I saw my first wigglers of the L70 :d This is absolutely my first experience of eggs hatching at 6 days old instead of 4. Notting has changed, temperature and waters were constant and exactly the same as always.

Has any one had the same experience with these fish? What does this mean? Could L70 be different from all other Hypancistrus? Just curious.

I will take some pictures when I'm back from work this afternoon!
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jac wrote:What does this mean? Could L70 be different from all other Hypancistrus?
If you repeat the experiment enough times, account for interfering factors and still get the same results, then yes, they are different!
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I think all (or almost all) of my hypancistrus (L174, L201, L340 ...) eggs hatches approximately at 5-6th day, not earlier.
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Great news !! Congrats !!!!!!
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rob rensen wrote:Great news !! Congrats !!!!!!
Thanks Rob b-)
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AleGer wrote:I think all (or almost all) of my hypancistrus (L174, L201, L340 ...) eggs hatches approximately at 5-6th day, not earlier.
Well, that depends on your keeping.
The colder the water for instance, the longer it takes for the eggs to mature for hatching. If your water would be around 28-29 degrees, that could mean that your incubation time is longer by one or 2 days.

The temperature here is a constant 30 degrees. All of my other fish (Hypancistrus and Sturisoma) have an incubation time of max 4 days. It has been so for 4-5 years without any change.

But with this species it is different. As I said, it took 6 days for the eggs to hatch.

Made a quick video when I came home. Sorry, didn't clean the hatchery first...will do so now! I was to exited :d

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1 Day old. Yolk sack is already reducing! There are 9 fry outside the cave and loads more in the cave with the male b-)

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i tried to view the videos on my tablets and it doesn't show and it does not show up on my pc either. Is there a link to them that I can follow along?
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nvcichlids wrote:i tried to view the videos on my tablets and it doesn't show and it does not show up on my pc either. Is there a link to them that I can follow along?
Just click the "Youtube" logo on the lower right of the preview.

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Is there something I'm not doing right? Please say so, it took me quite a while to learn how to put up a video on the forum. If people still can't see it, it's no use....
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It works fine for me too. But there may be stuff like different versions of flash-player or configurations of browser as well as firewalls, "internet security tools" and such that affect the viewing of videos through this site.

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MatsP wrote:It works fine for me too. But there may be stuff like different versions of flash-player or configurations of browser as well as firewalls, "internet security tools" and such that affect the viewing of videos through this site.

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