Honeycomb tatia

[Hmoobthor]

Looking for this great catfish.. known as oil woodcatfish, spotted woodcat but sifi name is "Centromochlus Perugiae"
anyone know who breeds them or where to get them...please let me know of contact number, website, numbers...

I try to special order it from petco and they don't have it....

i try aquabid..the guy there wants u to buy all the cats and pay for expensive shipping. I also found a few website that "has" them but overnight is ..well ..you will say fine?.

I wanna check here first. I am willing to pay for reasonable shipping that don't cost a leg and arm!

[Nabobmob1]

I have a group of these I'm working on breeding, a beautiful lil catfish, but rarely seen. (I spy with a blue hat light after lights out) Even in a 20Long I rarely see fish I actually had to set alarm to remind me to go feed cause if I feed before lights out and the food sinks, they will not eat it, very surface oriented for feedings. I feed live midges, golden pearls and floating betta foods, which they take readily.

Good luck on your search, Snookin on ABid has them from time to time.

[Hmoobthor]

I have a group of these I'm working on breeding, a beautiful lil catfish, but rarely seen. (I spy with a blue hat light after lights out) Even in a 20Long I rarely see fish I actually had to set alarm to remind me to go feed cause if I feed before lights out and the food sinks, they will not eat it, very surface oriented for feedings. I feed live midges, golden pearls and floating betta foods, which they take readily.

Good luck on your search, Snookin on ABid has them from time to time.

Thanks man! I done alot of research on them and YES!! this little baby are so hard to get your hands on!!

Snookin is the guy I was talking about on Aquabid. He won't sell 1 or 2 of them.
Well, I guess my choice now is buy them online.

Thanks anyway man! Hope I can get a pair and breed them and spread the joy cause not many people know them or have them.

[Nabobmob1]

I have a group of these I'm working on breeding, a beautiful lil catfish, but rarely seen. (I spy with a blue hat light after lights out) Even in a 20Long I rarely see fish I actually had to set alarm to remind me to go feed cause if I feed before lights out and the food sinks, they will not eat it, very surface oriented for feedings. I feed live midges, golden pearls and floating betta foods, which they take readily.

Good luck on your search, Snookin on ABid has them from time to time.

Thanks man! I done alot of research on them and YES!! this little baby are so hard to get your hands on!!

Snookin is the guy I was talking about on Aquabid. He won't sell 1 or 2 of them.
Well, I guess my choice now is buy them online.

Thanks anyway man! Hope I can get a pair and breed them and spread the joy cause not many people know them or have them.

Another source is Aquatic clarity (http://aquaticclarity.com), That's where I got mine.

[apistomaster]

Hi Nabob,
Use a dim red light bulb or red LED. The fish do not notice they are illuminated and continue to behave as if they are in the dark. A clear red filter over a flashlight also works well.

[Hmoobthor]

I have a group of these I'm working on breeding, a beautiful lil catfish, but rarely seen. (I spy with a blue hat light after lights out) Even in a 20Long I rarely see fish I actually had to set alarm to remind me to go feed cause if I feed before lights out and the food sinks, they will not eat it, very surface oriented for feedings. I feed live midges, golden pearls and floating betta foods, which they take readily.

Good luck on your search, Snookin on ABid has them from time to time.

Thanks man! I done alot of research on them and YES!! this little baby are so hard to get your hands on!!

Snookin is the guy I was talking about on Aquabid. He won't sell 1 or 2 of them.
Well, I guess my choice now is buy them online.

Thanks anyway man! Hope I can get a pair and breed them and spread the joy cause not many people know them or have them.

Another source is Aquatic clarity (http://aquaticclarity.com), That's where I got mine.

I know the owner..didn't know he has them.I will email ASAP!

Hi Nabob,
Use a dim red light bulb or red LED. The fish do not notice they are illuminated and continue to behave as if they are in the dark. A clear red filter over a flashlight also works well.

where do you get red LED light this days?

[Bijn]

where do you get red LED light this days?

Red light district

[Hmoobthor]

Just email him and got message back..

He don't have any...

Last chance is my LFS on Tuesday in the morning and if he can't special order them. Off to online order I will place.

[apistomaster]

I think http://www.belowwater.com has them in stock but Oliver Lucanus is in Canada. He can ship but it requires coordination with customs.
Or if you have friends on either side of the border they can be transported and relayed to you without any government paper work. That is how I have been able to sell to customers from British Columbia.
I have his most recent list. He has Tatia reticulata(

Centromochlus reticulatus

) if that is the species you are looking for. They are $15 each or 6/US$72. Send me a PM and I with your e-mail address and I'll forward his list to you or contact him directly.
They are not the same as Centromochlus perugiae which is cheaper when you find them.
http://www.corysrus.com had Centomochlus perugiae recently if that is what you want.

[MatsP]

Honeycomb tatia is

Centromochlus perugiae

. C. reticulata is a lovely little fish.

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Mats

[Hmoobthor]

I think http://www.belowwater.com has them in stock but Oliver Lucanus is in Canada. He can ship but it requires coordination with customs.
Or if you have friends on either side of the border they can be transported and relayed to you without any government paper work. That is how I have been able to sell to customers from British Columbia.
I have his most recent list. He has Tatia reticulata(

Centromochlus reticulatus

) if that is the species you are looking for. They are $15 each or 6/US$72. Send me a PM and I with your e-mail address and I'll forward his list to you or contact him directly.
They are not the same as Centromochlus perugiae which is cheaper when you find them.
http://www.corysrus.com had Centomochlus perugiae recently if that is what you want.

Thanks but no thanks. I don't want to deal with border.
Whooa! those reticulata look almost the same as C. perugiae. Don't wanna get the wrong one if LFS order a different species.

Can someone look at this website which i might be ordering from and tell me if the second pic is that C. Reticulatus because it has yellow skin with black dot.
http://www.aquariumfish.net/catalog_pag ... #honeycomb

I know the first picture is the right species but the second one might not be...please help so I can try to sort this..

Corysrus.com has them but you must buy 5 or more which I don't want.
Will update if I find them this week or not...

[MatsP]

The page you linked to is showing C. perugiae. C. reticulatus is noticably smaller when fully grown, and more pink than yellow.

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Mats

[Hmoobthor]

The page you linked to is showing C. perugiae. C. reticulatus is noticably smaller when fully grown, and more pink than yellow.

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Mats

so ur saying that when this C.Perugiae get bigger, they become yellowies as in the pictures?

[MatsP]

Yes, they may be a bit more yellow than white when they get bigger. My largest ones are still not very large, about 3.5cm/1.25", but quite a lot bulkier than C. reticulatus.

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Mats

[Hmoobthor]

Yes, they may be a bit more yellow than white when they get bigger. My largest ones are still not very large, about 3.5cm/1.25", but quite a lot bulkier than C. reticulatus.

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Mats

Good info..i didn't see anything like this on the profile.

Thanks!

[joefish72b]

Not much of a help since the guy is out of them but if you ever need a single fish from snookin21 let me know. I've been to his place a coupe times and I'd be happy to pick up a fish for one of the members here and ship it out to you.
I just picked up (13)L114 today.

[Marc van Arc]

Yes, they may be a bit more yellow than white when they get bigger. My largest ones are still not very large, about 3.5cm/1.25", but quite a lot bulkier than C. reticulatus.

Good info..i didn't see anything like this on the profile.

That's because the part in bold print is not correct. Freshly imported specimens show a yellow glow, which wears off pretty quickly in an aquarium setting in nearly all cases.
But it is certainly not correct that they become (more) yellow with age/length.

[MatsP]

Ah, that makes sense. It's quite common to have a yellow tinge to fish in the wild which disappears in captivity - not quite sure why...

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Mats

[Marc van Arc]

Ah, that makes sense. It's quite common to have a yellow tinge to fish in the wild which disappears in captivity - not quite sure why...

Most likely because - compared to the wild - our aquarium water lacks something or maybe some things. The big Q is of course what is missing. Is it the water chemistry, is it a particular food from that area (insects!) or both? I wish I knew....

Btw: if you go for a pair, I hope your seller knows how to pick one.
If not, you'll end up with ordering an extra few and I believe that is not what you want?

[Hmoobthor]

Ah, that makes sense. It's quite common to have a yellow tinge to fish in the wild which disappears in captivity - not quite sure why...

Most likely because - compared to the wild - our aquarium water lacks something or maybe some things. The big Q is of course what is missing. Is it the water chemistry, is it a particular food from that area (insects!) or both? I wish I knew....

Btw: if you go for a pair, I hope your seller knows how to pick one.
If not, you'll end up with ordering an extra few and I believe that is not what you want?

Thanks again for clearing alot of things up..that really helps!
The site I posted say you can request anything you like or sex or color or species.

It's a good thing cause some other website don't offer that. Will have to see tommorrow morning to see if my LFS can even order some, if they don't I am placing a order on them ASAP.

[apistomaster]

Based on my experience with 20 adults I would bet they are specialized at feeding on the pupae of Chironomids, non-biting Gnats. Scroll down to read my second post in this thread, http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =2&t=33186
The larval form of which we use and call blood worms. They are rich in hemoglobin and carotenoid precursors.
Carotenoids enhance the red and yellow pigmented cells.
I only had mine for one year before I broke the cardinal rule of quarantining new fish and I added six Hemmigrammus pulcher Tetras which introduced a Columnaris infection which wiped out my collection within 5 days. They retained their yellow color well and I fed them only frozen blood worms.

[Hmoobthor]

Based on my experience with 20 adults I would bet they are specialized at feeding on the pupae of Chironomids, non-biting Gnats. Scroll down to read my second post in this thread, http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =2&t=33186
The larval form of which we use and call blood worms. They are rich in hemoglobin and carotenoid precursors.
Carotenoids enhance the red and yellow pigmented cells.
I only had mine for one year before I broke the cardinal rule of quarantining new fish and I added six Hemmigrammus pulcher Tetras which introduced a Columnaris infection which wiped out my collection within 5 days. They retained their yellow color well and I fed them only frozen blood worms.

Yes I plan on feeding frozen blood worm too plus other pellet.
As matter of fact, one of of neon have NTD and was remove from the 55g.

[apistomaster]

I don't think these catfish need any food other than blood worms. Freeze dried blood worms are good because they float where these fish prefer to eat. Frozen blood worms are probably better for maintaining good color. I fed mine live black worms and they did eat them but they fed on those I placed in a floating worm feeder better than they did from those that fell to the bottom. They really are quite specialized for feeding at or near the surface.

[Hmoobthor]

i call to the LFS this morning and he told me he did see some on the list..

But the new list of fish isn't in until wednesday afternoon so I will have to call back to see if its on the list for sure.

[apistomaster]

snookn21 lists them on aquabid.com at the best price I have seen and he has the lowest shipping charge of any one who ships over night delivery.
You won't find any cheaper.

[Hmoobthor]

snookn21 lists them on aquabid.com at the best price I have seen and he has the lowest shipping charge of any one who ships over night delivery.
You won't find any cheaper.

I already talk about snookin21 on my last post. He overchage too much for shipping and he will only sell 6 of them only. I don't have room for 6 plus I don't need that many.

Its okay if you wanna buy alot of honeycomb with shipping! I ask if there was other shipping method ( like USPS express)...I was denia any method..

[apistomaster]

snookn21(John) does tend to sell fish in minimum lots.
So do I.
But I can't beat his low freight rates. They are cheaper than Express Mail.
Maybe you should try to work with your local fish shops.

[PlecoCrazy]

snookn21(John) does tend to sell fish in minimum lots.
So do I.
But I can't beat his low freight rates. They are cheaper than Express Mail.
Maybe you should try to work with your local fish shops.

I second that. I have far too many things to do to worry about than selling a $6 fish that maybe I would maybe make $3 on and then still have to collect money, deal with customer, catch it, bag it, box it, weight it, ship it, drop off at fedex that uses gas,track it, and then might still have to deal with shipping issues that may arise to make $3. Its not worth it to John or hardly anyone else. John does not overcharge for freight. He is by far the cheapest place to have fish shipped from. I cannot even figure out how he charges so little.

USPS has very unreliable(if available) next day service and many people who sell fish do not use them

I would suggest asking your LFS. Not a Petco but a mom and pops store. They should be able to order one of these as they are usually on the availability list from the distributors.

[apistomaster]

I only use USPS Express Mail but only between April and October depending on the weather. I have a pretty good methodology for packing plecos which allows me to be fine for 2 days since in tests my fish have still been fine for 7 days but then had to be released to be fed.

I am mainly a fair weather shipper and avoid the winter completely. Most of the time I have tried to have fish shipped to me over night via FedEx in the winter my orders came in ice cold. The USPS may be slower but they seem to be good about not leaving the fish out in the cold very often. It does limit how many fish I could sell if I shipped the year around but there would be some customers whose orders don't do well. I have no more than a 1% loss rate over a five year period of the fish I ship out. I like not having to deal with frozen orders.
If I could get John's UPS freight rates I would ship the year around. Oh well, I am not trying to make my living off fish but I do require that I make a net profit. I use the winter to grow my fish larger but with only 14 breeding tanks I do not run a big business but I have to agree with everything you wrote, Trent.

[Hmoobthor]

alright ..alright...

Call my LFS 2 times today to cofirm if they have the fish list in.

apprently this little catfish are not so common to be found in LFS list.

So I place an order on aquariumfish.net and should be here on friday.

Looking forward to keep this catfish!

EDIT: Receive them, Fedex delivery to wrong house and the guy there came over to give to me. I think I might have two males. 1 male for sure but the other one, IDK cause i can't get a view of it. Both are yellow tan color.