hypan id and sex please
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hypan id and sex please
hi guys i just picked up these 2 hypans, can anyone tell me what they are and the sex please, they are both 3 inch SL
fish 1
fish 2
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dave
fish 1
fish 2
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Re: hypan id and sex please
sorry for the big pictures i dont know how to make them smaller
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Re: hypan id and sex please
I'd say the first one is and the second is either (L129) or (less likely L340, but I'm not good at telling them apart).
The first fish looks like a male, the second looks to be female. So I hope you have two different tanks for them, as Hypancistrus tends to be able to hybridize between just about any species we know of.
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The first fish looks like a male, the second looks to be female. So I hope you have two different tanks for them, as Hypancistrus tends to be able to hybridize between just about any species we know of.
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Re: hypan id and sex please
hi i had a large group of 13 L129 about 2 years ago and i dont think the second fish is 129. you are probably right on the first fish being L333, it doesnt have the deeply forked tail of L066
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Re: hypan id and sex please
anyone else have any idea
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Re: hypan id and sex please
I agree with L333 on the first fish. The SL likely eliminates either L129 or L340. I have colonies of both and neither pattern nor shape looks right. However, I can't say what they are.
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Re: hypan id and sex please
how about L270 for the second fish?
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Re: hypan id and sex please
Hi,
l 333 both, second one could be a female, but has fin deformations. It is a little bit too young to sex. Please be careful with putting different forms of Hypancistrus together to avoid hybrids.
l 333 both, second one could be a female, but has fin deformations. It is a little bit too young to sex. Please be careful with putting different forms of Hypancistrus together to avoid hybrids.
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Re: hypan id and sex please
which fins look deformed to you? they look fine to me. so you are saying they are both L333? is it ok for me to breed these two fish together? i am asking as i would hate to create hybrids
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Re: hypan id and sex please
I think the consensus we're coming to is that #2 is too young to tell.
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Re: hypan id and sex please
fish 2 is the same size as fish 1 at 3 inches not including the tail, they are both captive bred and came from different breeders but at the time of buying they where the same size, this is all the person who sold me them could tell me about them so i presume they are around the same age
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Re: hypan id and sex please
forgot to add that they are around 2.5 years old
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Re: hypan id and sex please
L270 is a good possibility. For some reason I didn't of it when posting earlier.
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Re: hypan id and sex please
The pattern isn't quiet there to be a L270, although each specie have a degree of variance.
In my opinion its not a L270.
Saul
In my opinion its not a L270.
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Re: hypan id and sex please
Hi,
in the first picture it looks like a deformation, but I think I'm wrong. The rest is OK. Like other Hypancistrus, L 333 includes several different variants, including different body colour and patterns. Mixing different sources of fish increases the risk of hybrids. The status of L 333 is just a poor number and one(!) picture in the DATZ to make life easier for importers and sellers. There is no description so nothing is defined. It could be, that both of your fish are L 333, but the pattern is very different, so the risk of an mixture between different sources is very high.
in the first picture it looks like a deformation, but I think I'm wrong. The rest is OK. Like other Hypancistrus, L 333 includes several different variants, including different body colour and patterns. Mixing different sources of fish increases the risk of hybrids. The status of L 333 is just a poor number and one(!) picture in the DATZ to make life easier for importers and sellers. There is no description so nothing is defined. It could be, that both of your fish are L 333, but the pattern is very different, so the risk of an mixture between different sources is very high.