Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

[Jools]

Yes, although I'd rather call them Centromochlus cf. altae.

Just on this thought, do we have matching locality data? Where are these fish coming from?

Jools

[Marc van Arc]

The last batch I had were (sent) from Peru.

[Jools]

The last batch I had were (sent) from Peru.

Would make sense if they are from Río Caquetá drainage, Morelia, Colombia.

Jools

[Yann]

Hi!

I received these as Centromochlus perugiae


but makes me wonder since my other perugiae look like this:


Any thoughts

otherwise a shot of one my 6 Tatia dunni:


one of my Tatia intermedia that has well grown up since I had it...


cheers
Yann

[kruseman]

Very nice Yann!
What yellow colors on that second picture. Are they still like that?
I remember mine had that shade of yellow as well, a couple of years ago, but after a short while disappeared fully.

The T. dunni's ,mouthshape resembles Siluris glanis

[Marc van Arc]

And I should have kept my mouth shut! There's one A. nigripinnis male with a very swollen belly, a bit too swollen if you ask me.......

And it's a goner. Positive is that it was definitely an individual thing.
Negative thing is that this species is becoming very irritating because of their behaviour. Way beyond panicking every time someone dares to approach the tank with two bad consequences:
- they keep themselves constantly injured (and thus probably more liable to diseases)
- other fishes (Markiana) are becoming very skittish as well

To anyone doubting the purchase of

Auchenipterus nigripinnis

, stop doubting. Simply don't buy. In my opinion and experience this auchenipterid is highly unrecommended. Sorry.

[Marc van Arc]

Very nice Yann!
What yellow colors on that second picture. Are they still like that?
I remember mine had that shade of yellow as well, a couple of years ago, but after a short while disappeared fully.

I won't answer your question to Yann, but I bet you a couple of euros the yellow wore off rather quickly. Just like in your and mine specimens.

However...... I recall Yann telling that a friend of his has (had?) specimens that remained yellow, which would imply fabulous water conditions.

So it's (still) up to Yann to answer, but the bet is off

[Junttis]

To anyone doubting the purchase of

Auchenipterus nigripinnis

, stop doubting. Simply don't buy. In my opinion and experience this auchenipterid is highly unrecommended. Sorry.

Agreed. My nigripinnis aren't that skittish. Now they live with 50+ Puntius filamentosus and P. arulius and the catfish swim with them all the time. The barbs and catfish don't get scared easily in a such large shoal.
This is by far the best combination i've tried with these cats.

[Yann]

Hi!!

yes they lost their yellow colour by now...but mainly because I keep them in tap water, they did keep their yellow colour in R/O water and they were kept under these conditions for several months.
I was also wondering about my "new" perugiae" as the hard rays of the pectoral, dorsal fins have spots which the other did not have...also adipose is coloured.
Makes me wonder if this could be considered as possible within the species variation or something else...shape seems a bit different..my "older" perugiae are a bit more elongated rather to the new ones

Cheers
Yann

[MatsP]

Seeing as I've lost my Centromochlus romani and C. reticulatus, I found some C. perugiae.

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Mats

[MatsP]

Managed to find one of my C. perugiae [apparently bred in Indonesia].

Sorry for the poor quality of the photo (and it's amazing that the - my wife is holding my camera ransom, so I was using my phone, which is NOT the New Nokia N8...

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Mats

[Junttis]

Yep. It was sad to read what happened to your fishes.

I've been trying to get T. taeniatus for over three years. Let's hope now is the time.

First group i got in 2007 were DOA, and the second time i tried to get them, i received T. galeatus.

Yess!! They're here!

I got four

Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus

, and four adult

Liosomadoras oncinus

plus some more pretty special fish. Pictures tomorrow.

[Marc van Arc]

Seeing as I've lost my Centromochlus romani and C. reticulatus, I found some C. perugiae.

Nice find Mats. And well deserved too.

[Marc van Arc]

I got four

Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus

, and four adult

Liosomadoras oncinus

plus some more pretty special fish. Pictures tomorrow.

I'm of course always looking forward to auchenipterid pictures, but what about those pretty special fish? Let's have them!

[Martin S]

I got four

Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus

, and four adult

Liosomadoras oncinus

plus some more pretty special fish. Pictures tomorrow.

I'm of course always looking forward to auchenipterid pictures, but what about those pretty special fish? Let's have them!

Yep, me too! Never say no to pictures of Liosomadoras oncinus!

And as an aside, I'm adding a trio of

Tatia gyrina

to my tank in the not too distant future, thanks to Steve (The.Dark.One) and MatsP

[Junttis]

Sorry guys, no pictures today. The fish are still a bit too skittish, so i didn't got any good enough pictures. The other species are:

Gymnallabes typus

Hemidoras cf. stenopeltis

Brachysynodontis batensoda

Hemisynodontis membranacea

Synodontis clarias

Chrysichthys ornatus

Doras eigenmanni

Rhinodoras sp
And one mystery catfish. I think it's somekind of Ictalurus.

My friend Jippo got some real rarities. A real

Synodontis filamentosa

for example! Jippo said he's going to start a new thread so you can see what else he brought with him from Germany.

[kruseman]

That is a nice list, Junttis!
What store in Germany if I may ask?

[Junttis]

That is a nice list, Junttis!
What store in Germany if I may ask?

Thanks.

They are From Glaser and Of-aquaristik.

[Marc van Arc]

They are From Glaser and Of-aquaristik.

Nice list indeed and still looking forward to pix, whenever they may come. Take your time; it's important those fishes get some peace & quiet first.
OF? Isn't that Oliver Frank (= Tanganyika.de)?
Glaser...... somehow I have to see that place one day.

[Jools]

Glaser...... somehow I have to see that place one day.

I hope to place an order with them tomorrow evening, latest stock list arrives tomorrow AM.

Jools

[Junttis]

OF? Isn't that Oliver Frank (= Tanganyika.de)?
Glaser...... somehow I have to see that place one day.

Yep. Same company. Glaser is a real candystore. I hope i'm going to see it my self next year.

[kruseman]

Too bad Glaser is a wholesaler.

[MatsP]

I think Glaser sells directly too. Check their website, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.

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Mats

[kruseman]

Well Mats, I wish that was the case, but on their website it says:

...Daß wir ausschliesslich den Großhandel beliefern... which means that they only deliver to wholesalers.

If somebody is going there, check this nice little characin (sorry, a bit off topic):



or (on topic) this nice little fellow:

[Marc van Arc]

I think Glaser sells directly too. Check their website, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.

From their site:"Daß wir ausschliesslich den Großhandel beliefern" means "we only sell to wholesalers". Alas.....

[MatsP]

I must have confused it with another German specialist that does sell to individuals.

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Mats

[Jools]

I must have confused it with another German specialist that does sell to individuals.

They will sell to individuals, with the appropriate checks, but you've got to buy in quantity. The text on the website, I suspect, is to stop people emailing with "how much for three tetras please" type emails. Three thousand and you've got a deal.

Jools

[Marc van Arc]

I must have confused it with another German specialist that does sell to individuals.

That could well be Raubwelse.de

[Bas Pels]

Once I ordered fish from Austria - from a wholeseller

It was clear - they would not have sold to a fishkeeper in Austria (competing your customers is not a good idea) - but as I was far away - no problems there

Obviously, buying from a wholeseller you need to buy quantities. Don't argue needlessly. But if you go for 50 tetras and 10 of the above gulper? I would not see any problem

[Martin S]

Does anyone know what the fish Neil at Peir is selling as Ageneiosus sp. 'Blue'?
One of the members of another forum asked my advice on ID after buying one, and the nearest I could get was

Auchenipterus nigripinnis

, but the pictures are very blurred and difficult to distinguish any real detail.
Thanks
Martin