Need your help to identify

Boupette · Post by **Boupette** » 30 Aug 2010, 23:09

Hello There!

I would need some help. I bought 2 of them in a lfs, they didn't know their identity.

Thanks!

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Bijn · Post by **Bijn** » 30 Aug 2010, 23:11

this is a hybrid synodontis

Post by **Silurus** » 30 Aug 2010, 23:13

It's a hybrid along the lines of .

Boupette · Post by **Boupette** » 31 Aug 2010, 00:50

Thanks for your answers. It is a real hybrid, a cross of 2 differents species? If so I'm deceived, I was not expecting it could be a hybrid.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 31 Aug 2010, 00:58

It is a real hybrid, a cross of 2 differents species?

Yes, in technical terms it is called an "interspecific hybrid".

Mike_Noren · Post by **Mike_Noren** » 31 Aug 2010, 01:04

Yes. A large part, possibly the majority, of Synodontis sold today are hybrids, usually sold under false or made-up names. They can be beautiful fish in their own right but one would wish the breeders were more up front about the fact that they're hybrids.

Boupette · Post by **Boupette** » 31 Aug 2010, 01:24

Mike_Noren wrote:Yes. A large part, possibly the majority, of Synodontis sold today are hybrids, usually sold under false or made-up names. They can be beautiful fish in their own right but one would wish the breeders were more up front about the fact that they're hybrids.

I didn't know that about Synodontis. I usually know exactly what I'm buying and I'm not particularly fond by interspecific hybrids but this time they really got me..

I will take good care of them anyway for I'm responsible of those littles lives when I decided to pick them up at that lfs, they are beautifull I agree but it is now certain that I don't have in mind to reproduce them. Thank you very much!

Boupette · Post by **Boupette** » 02 Sep 2010, 03:59

Oh oh! Somebody found this: http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... ge_id=7320
It looks a lot like mines, could it be a Synodontis ornatipinnis? http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/sp ... ies_id=552 What do you think?

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 02 Sep 2010, 05:25

There has been a bit of debate on how many of those cat-elog fish are actually S. ornatipinnis.

Nobody was sure, but the real S. ornatipinnis are almost unheard of in the trade, and when they are available, they are adults.

Young hybrids on the other hand are available in nearly every petshop in the world.

The chances of your fish being a real S. ornatipinnis is about 0.0001%.

Richard B · Post by **Richard B** » 02 Sep 2010, 09:05

I think your fish is a variation on often sold in the uk as Syno Zebrinus. I believe this fish is likely to be a cross between Synos schoutedeni & angelica.

I have often been critical of the ID of fish labelled ornatipinnis. I have seen wild ornatipinnis & although beautiful their markings are consistently not as bold as fish being offered. In my 30+ years of fishkeeping i have seen less than half a dozen which i know to be genuine & all have been 4-5" SL & cost £85-£125.

Tiny fish, offered in quantity, with bold markings is indicative of something that is being commercially bred & probably a hybrid. In your case i'm sure it is a hybrid species.

Boupette · Post by **Boupette** » 02 Sep 2010, 16:36

Thaks a lot. I'll post other pics when they'll allow me to.

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