What Ancistrus?

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 27 May 2010, 15:01

Can anyone take ID on this, it`s adult, and about 120mm TL (think I`w asked before as well)

[Mod edit; Modify title --Mats]

MermaidMel · Post by **MermaidMel** » 27 May 2010, 15:22

Starlight Bristlenose L183 I think

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 27 May 2010, 15:29

I tend to say that it's NOT L183 - but a shot of the dorsal fin would help.

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Mats

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 27 May 2010, 15:53

Agree Mats, not L-183, got them in another tank. I couldt pick it out, ant take som shots of the dorsal, IF I can catch it

Get back in a jiffy....

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 27 May 2010, 15:58

We look forward to pictures. There's that article about the Ancistrus hoplogenys group in Shane's World that might help.

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 27 May 2010, 16:16

Good title wa shanged, dont know why I said hypan LOL
Well... Here is picks of the dorsal, had to do some lightening on them, but there should be possibility to count the rays now i think?

I count 8?

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 27 May 2010, 16:24

I came to 8 as well, so either we're both right or both wrong. It rules out L183 which has 10-12 and I think it also rules out L071/L181/L249 which have 9 [to the best of my knoweldge].

L100?

I take it you don't know WHERE it was caught?

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Mats

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 27 May 2010, 16:36

Right Mats, I dont know location on it, had a female as well, but died (at least I think it did)

To many L-cats here LOL

There is no white seam on it, can the dots on the eye give some clue? I have looked and looked, and I agre that its `none of the one you mention Mats. A bit of a pussle to me.....

Any more picks that could help, before I`l put him back?
Clearly he is an adult?

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 27 May 2010, 16:40

According to the Shane's World article, 8 is a fin ray count for both L-numbers, but the lack of a white stripe should make it L71/L181/L249.

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 27 May 2010, 17:10

All those have size over 200mm? I`W had mine for nearly two years. only fish that I think match, are L-180, but then again dont match the headshape, atleast not pick one, on the other side, the last pick is pretty close???? Just thinkig out loud

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 27 May 2010, 17:18

Well it's pretty hard to tell if it has a ranunculus-like head shape from the side. If you can see it doesn't have the same head shape I'd say it's not L180.

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 27 May 2010, 17:24

As I said, just thinking out loud

You guyes know this far better than I do

It certanly dont have ranuculus head

Unungy · Post by **Unungy** » 27 May 2010, 18:30

Saw a vendor in the USA advertising L-184 BRILLIANT ANCISTRUS

could it be? I could not find pictures of any L-184 anywhere

Saul

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 27 May 2010, 18:32

There are pics in the Cat-eLog. It looks like it has fewer spots than the pictured fish.

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 27 May 2010, 19:08

Birger Amundsen wrote:All those have size over 200mm? I`W had mine for nearly two years. only fish that I think match, are L-180, but then again dont match the headshape, atleast not pick one, on the other side, the last pick is pretty close???? Just thinkig out loud

In my experience, Ancistrus species grow quite slowly once they have reached some sort of sexual maturity - but they DO continue to grow. Combine that with the fact that it's perhaps not quite as ideal a situation as in the wild, they may not reach their ultimate max size (and if the size is from something like Aqualog or DATZ, it's probably TL not SL - highly likely for L-numbers that haven't got a scientific description, so take off about 20% - 160mm SL for a 200mm TL fish is reasonable, I think).

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Mats

Unungy · Post by **Unungy** » 27 May 2010, 19:17

Suckermouth wrote:There are
L184
pics in the Cat-eLog. It looks like it has fewer spots than the pictured fish.

Yes you are right. I could not see any pictures before.
maybe it is my browser lol

I will have more inclinations of L180.

claro · Post by **claro** » 27 May 2010, 20:09

Hi,

i try to find a solution to eL-number this my ancistrus (ist the same as your) in this topic:

http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... hilit=L213

i think that is undocumented L-number by genus Ancistrus dolichopterus.

Milan

Unungy · Post by **Unungy** » 27 May 2010, 20:24

I don't see no white on his tail? but yes it looks very similar otherwise.
Saul

claro · Post by **claro** » 27 May 2010, 20:45

White on tail have got only young, later haven't got white on tail and dots are smaller but base is all the time very dark.

Unungy · Post by **Unungy** » 28 May 2010, 00:25

Yes they look just like it. I think we have an ID
Thank you for sharing those amazing pictures.

Saul

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 31 May 2010, 20:00

Might be the one.....

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