Trip out: 28th Dec Pier Wigan (Was: Change of plan...)

[sojapat]

Glad you had a good visit , You are more than welcome ,please let me know in advance if there are some particular fish I can help you obtain
ie Leporacanthicus ,I can see what we can do.
The L183 took a beasting. No girls left .
Hope all the fish made it home ok?

[Richard B]

I suspect Mats is acclimatising fish...

Neil, extremely impressive as always - what was the pim in the top tank above & to the left of the

Orinocodoras eigenmanni

? Was it

Pinirampus pirinampu

or something else? ( I think maybe RedTailRob would be interested to know)

[MatsP]

Anyone who was part of the outing (or anyone else for that matter) is welcome to comment in this thread.

What I got was:

Ancistrus dolichopterus

(L183): Eight, but I'm only keeping three of these. Daniel and Jamie H are picking up the rest - I'll PM you with details.

Dekeyseria sp(L052)

"Butterfly Pleco" - got myself a trio of these (2f/1m)

Orinocodoras eigenmanni

- Unusual fish, £3.95 - couldn't resist, despite not quite knowing where they will go... Three of them too.

For Martin S:
Two woodcats that I still don't quite know what they are - Martin, if you know, let me know.

What I saw and this is by no means an account of ALL the fish in the shop - I don't think any single person can possibly remember what all the fish was:
Several variations of Gold nugget (L177, L081, "Startdust" gold nugget)

Hemiancistrus subviridis

L200

Baryancistrus demantoides

L200 Hi-Fin

Hemiancistrus sp(L128)

Hypancistrus debilittera

(L129). £10.50

Hypancistrus sp(L199)

£9.50 - not very large.

Ancistrus triradiatus

(LDA72).

Sturisoma

spp. £16 ea, 2 @ £30.

Synodontis multipuncatata

Otocinclus cocama

- very nice.

There where LOTS of other fish.

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Mats

[Martin S]

Am really sorry I missed it, but as always, Mats made sure I didn't miss out on the only woodcats in store, so even I came away with fish from Pier
I look forward to seeing your new fish Mats - let me know when you're about (I'm working this week, and have my daughter this weekend...but am sure I could talk her into popping over with me )
Martin

[Richard B]

For discussion on Martins woodcats see the "what auchenipterids are being kept?" thread,

Corydoras punctatus

super 16.00
purple pencilfish 6.50
apisto pandurini 13.50 per pair

Leiocassis hosii

Mystus bocourti

Pterodoras rivasi

Megalodoras uranoscopus

both species of Horabagrus

Pseudopimelodus bufonius

Gagata cenia

Pseudeutropius sp(1)

Acanthicus adonis

18.00
Lamontichthys sp

Otocinclus cocama

- real big healthy specimens

Peckoltia snethlageae

Peckoltia sp(l134)

32.00

Peckoltia sabaji

Pseudolithoxus tigris

24.00

Hypancistrus zebra

2" 95.00
Gymnotus carapo - 9.50 http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/fish/ba ... fefish.php
Blue Mystus (no ID)

Hypostomus luteus

- all 3 phases

and sooooooo much more, i've probably missed most of the loricariids... giant 2 foot plus panaque, XL

Chaetostoma milesi

, pairs of sturisoma, pseudacanthicus, hypancistrus - the list goes on & on

[ricefish]

Thanks MatsP,Richard B andTP for putting up with my lack of catfish knowledge.The selection at pier was overwhelming i was happy with my Corys and livebearers hopefully it was not my last visit to Pier

[MatsP]

Thanks for coming along. It was nice to have some equally loonatic come along... ;)

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Mats

[danielryan]

mats, thanks for looking after my fish for a couple of days until I could get to you.

I was very suprised to see one of them sucking the glass this morning, but the other 2 were no-where to be seen, which is what I expected!

hopefully I will be able to make the next road trip thats planned in the new year.

[Coryman]

I have a query about the C. sp punctatus you picked up. Do you know if they were the true species from Suriname. I ask because the image shown looks more like the species CW039 from the Madre de Dios in Peru. At the moment C. punctatus is high on my hit list.

Ian

Corydoras punctatus

Image courtesy Ian Fuller & Corydorasworld.com

[Martin S]

Ian
I don't think anyone purchased the C.punctatus - the list of fish were those that were seen (well, at least remembered as being available), so it may be worth sending a PM to Neil to see if he can help.
HTH
Martin

[Richard B]

Hi Ian

I don't think any of us actually got the punctatus - in my post earlier in the thread, i was recording things of interest for those unable to make it on the day. They were labelled punctatus 'super' & it struck me the fine body spotting was accurate for the species in relation to the size of the specimens (approx 28mm). The pic in my earlier post is just a link to the cat-e-log page.

I have no clue about origin - so you'd have to speak to Neil - the pic you have posted shows far fewer body spots than those seen - are these smaller fish or is the density & size of spots typical regardless of size?

[Coryman]

Hi Richard,

The image I have posted is of a pair of adult C. punctatus the picture from the catalog is definitely of the undescribed species CW039. The spots are a lot smaller but the main visual difference being there are distinct vertical bars in the caudal of C. punctatus

After a little more checking there is another similar species from the Rio Uruara in the state of Amazonas, this has the number CW037

Ian

Corydoras species CW037

Image courtesy Marcus Hufgard & Corydorasworld.com

Corydoras sp CW039


Image courtesy Hans-George Evers & Corydorasworld.com
Ian

[MatsP]

Ian,

I need to understand this better, are you saying that the pictures in the Cat-eLog of

Corydoras punctatus

(where the first picture says "Collected in French Guyana", which isn't quite Suriname, but at least not a thousand miles "wrong"). The other three pictures look similar to me. And they look different from both CW039 and CW037: The tail is clearly striped, similar to the picture of the pair that you posted.

I am by no means saying you are wrong - you are a much better expert on corys than I am, but I'd like to understand what we are talking about here.

And after writing all that, I get the idea that the whole discussion is about what the fish in the shop were, rather than what is in the Cat-eLog - if that's the case, just say so, and accept my apologies for being daft.

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Mats

[Richard B]

Thanks to the pics Ian has posted, i think the fish at Pier, are cw039 not punctatus

[sojapat]

Hi .They Came in as Super Punctatus and are Brazilian ,
They are labelled as this in the tank?
I cant get fish from French Guyana .
The Megalonema platycephalum was the fish in the top tank .
Not Piranampus ... I like them ..Very Blue !
Glad you all enjoyed the visit .
Hope to see you all soon

[Richard B]

Cheers for the clarifications Neil

Hopefully see you in a few weeks (or thereabouts)

[Richard B]

I forgot to menion one of the prettiest fishes & certainly one that caught my eye & it's not even a catfish

Pridii loach - absolutely stunning!

[Dave Rinaldo]

I forgot to menion one of the prettiest fishes & certainly one that caught my eye & it's not even a catfish

Pridii loach - absolutely stunning!

From Loaches Online

Schistura pridii

[Richard B]

I forgot to menion one of the prettiest fishes & certainly one that caught my eye & it's not even a catfish

Pridii loach - absolutely stunning!

From Loaches Online

Schistura pridii

So whatta you all think - i can tell you they look much better in reality but hell they're small. I understand they're quite endangered in a tiny little area in the wild

[RickE]

Very pretty, but did you follow the link to loaches online and read the '100 illegal imports' thing?

[Richard B]

I saw it earlier - it seems to suggest that that amount couldn't be collected from the unprotected areas but it is dangerous territory to suggest such things without all the facts. Although the small tank at Pier had plenty of cover, i only saw one of these, & it wasn't being shy.

[MatsP]

Hi .They Came in as Super Punctatus and are Brazilian ,
They are labelled as this in the tank?
I cant get fish from French Guyana .
The Megalonema platycephalum was the fish in the top tank .
Not Piranampus ... I like them ..Very Blue !
Glad you all enjoyed the visit .
Hope to see you all soon

I enjoyed the shop visit - not quite sure about the driving bit...

I'm definitely there for a visit during the CSG conference... Which is only a bit over 2 months from now!

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Mats

[sojapat]

Hi ,Shistura Pridii is not endangered as a species. I have good information on this .It is however a beauty
Matts thanks for bringing the guys , its hard to get the new fish without support of guys like you who will travel .
Nice when the fishes get to the people that want them.