husky_jim wrote:And i have more questions now whether the L411 is a "pure specie" or not..are there any wildcaughts collected around?...Janne or anyone else can help on this?
L411 is a pure species, they was collected in very large amounts when it was "legal" and I have never seen any "mutants" among the WC, not even one that come close to this pattern. Looking at the fin pattern on this speciemen in the first post and even the one Yann posted and compare that with L411 it match, the only different is the body pattern.
I do beleive that Alain's species and parents is true L411 but to convince everybody that is the case it would be great to even see pictures of the father and mother for these really nice looking offspring's. There are many odd speciemens in nature making it difficult for us to understand the complexity within the genus Hypancistrus, in some localities some of these species is very unstable and maybe this example with the L411 can give us some more understanding why some of these species shows such a huge variety in their pattern.
Haavard wrote:Are these fish suckermouths really like guppies?
Yes, in some localities I do beleive they are like guppies.
Haavard wrote:A lot of the other Ls (hypancistrus sp. lower xingu) don`t seem to be collected in numbers supporting a theori of species definition.
They are collected or was in large numbers but always mixed from the same localities or we beleive they are mixed cause the huge variety both in pattern, colour and body shape, in all cases these are more or less impossible to define as 1 species and needs lots of research to be analyzied before anyone can say what they are.
Janne
