The challenge part 2

[worton[pl]]

Found mature male + 3 females .
Nice!

[nvcichlids]

I found a SINGLE fish at the only LFS that carries anything other than the "run of the mill" fish. This breeding idea is not looking good, but I am darn determined to do it!

[grokefish]

I found a SINGLE fish at the only LFS that carries anything other than the "run of the mill" fish. This breeding idea is not looking good, but I am darn determined to do it!

Thats the way, we won't start till yer ready.

Matt

[nvcichlids]

I found a SINGLE fish at the only LFS that carries anything other than the "run of the mill" fish. This breeding idea is not looking good, but I am darn determined to do it!

Thats the way, we won't start till yer ready.

Matt

Lol i just called another store locally and they have Dianema urostriatum, which I am seeing is a bit harder to breed than the Hoplos lol. You can start at any time, I may just be slow.

Good news, I have fry from my L129's.. to bad that doesn't qualify either lol.

[grokefish]

Hey, dianema that'll do!

Matt

[Bas Pels]

Dianema was not in the first list

But perhaps Dianema is harder, so I don't thing any complaint is due

[Birger]

I kind of unofficially group these together in the hoplo category anyway so I am fine with Dianema...excellent choice.

It will be interesting to see the small differences needed between the different species to carry things through.

I am just in the middle of procuring a group of Synodontis polli so I may end up a bit behind... but I will look for a Megalechis species.(and suitable space in my tanks)

Birger

[nvcichlids]

Biger, don't worry about it, I cannot even attempt to start breeding until the end of april after I move. Maybe I said I am in prematurely. I will keep people updated if I do get them to breed, but guess I will stay "on the fence". not 100% in or out.

BTW, Found some more L129 fry scurrying around the tank Friday morning when the lights came on. Adults are around 2.5" (wild trio) and the fry seem to be maybe 1/2" in length. Will attempt to get pics next time I see them!( counted 22 little bodies on the front glass, who knows how many more elsewhere in the tank)

[L number Banana]

nvcichlids :

I cannot even attempt to start breeding until the end of april after I move

I pick up M.thoracata April 19 so not to worry about being behind. I'm guessing mine will be little ones so I don't anticipate a win here but I do expect to learn a whole lot about breeding my first bubble-nester.

[nvcichlids]

I pick up M.thoracata April 19 so not to worry about being behind. I'm guessing mine will be little ones so I don't anticipate a win here but I do expect to learn a whole lot about breeding my first bubble-nester.

I have bred bettas since I was 5, know how the bubble nesters work, just not sure what my sucess will be with the hoplos.

[MatsP]

I have another entry on the list then:

Dianema urostriatum

, which is my third Callichtyidae that isn't a Corydoradine.

They aren't very big however, so it may take a little while to grow them out (and of course, I make have 6 of one sex, if I'm unlucky).

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Mats

[L number Banana]

nvcichlids wrote:

just not sure what my sucess will be with the hoplos.

Me neither I've never even seen a bubble nest! This is a great idea. I even bought new testing fluids and Hoplo' journal to get ready for the new arrivals. The actual success of fry would be the icing on the cake.

[nvcichlids]

Cool Mats, that is the species I am picking up here shortly. I hope the ones I get are large enough (said they were 2" currently.) are they sexually mature at that size?

[MatsP]

Cool Mats, that is the species I am picking up here shortly. I hope the ones I get are large enough (said they were 2" currently.) are they sexually mature at that size?

Mine are a bit more than 2" TL, but not a lot - I can't see any being different from the others in any way. Apparently, the only difference is that the females are heavier in the body, so if they are in a shop that doesn't do heavy feeding, it may not show anyways.

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Mats

[grokefish]

My internet went awol for a few days.
Don't anyone stress about being ready yet, I said this was a long term challenge and we have to discuss Jools' proposal yet.
My

Megalechis thoracata

turned up today, and there was 9 in there!
What a deal, 9 cats for £1.20.
One died though in transit, poor bugger.
They are really small so I don't expect much to come for a while, however on a related suject, my

Liosomadoras morrowi

females are so full of eggs I think something has to happen soon.

Matt

[worton[pl]]

Hello,

so this is a list of declared participants so far

mummymonkey ?
L number Banana
nvcichlids
MatsP
Birger?

? mark means I'm not sure

I will receive my group of Megalechis on Thursday .

Regards.

[Birger]

I have a group of Megalechis thorocata that will possibly be here tomorrow...these are only about one inch or so long.
Does anyone know what is the growth rate of these(to maturity), I expect fairly quick in general.
Coming along with S.polli and another L.oncinus

Birger

[MatsP]

I have a group of Megalechis thorocata that will possibly be here tomorrow...these are only about one inch or so long.
Does anyone know what is the growth rate of these(to maturity), I expect fairly quick in general.
Coming along with S.polli and another L.oncinus

Birger

I got some that were about 2" TL some two years ago. They grew to nearly double that size in about 9 months. Gluttons by any name.

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Mats

[grokefish]

I have a group of Megalechis thorocata that will possibly be here tomorrow...these are only about one inch or so long.
Does anyone know what is the growth rate of these(to maturity), I expect fairly quick in general.
Coming along with S.polli and another L.oncinus

Birger

I got some that were about 2" TL some two years ago. They grew to nearly double that size in about 9 months. Gluttons by any name.

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Mats

Well thats good news.

Matt

[Jools]

I'm in too having picked up 5 very young 1-1.5cm captive breds this weekend. I think we do this via this thread but as I add more features to the site to do with breeding then perhaps we can beta them with this project?

Jools

[Marc van Arc]

As most of you are starting off with post larval specimens , you may have some spare time left to solve the latest riddle. It's been there for three days, so any help is welcome. I'd like to start solving them again instead of making them

[Birger]

Postby worton[pl] on Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:31 am
Found mature male + 3 females .
Nice!

Hey Warton, which species did you find thoracata or picta, mature too, good score.

hmm... I am going to keep looking might stumble across something more mature as well.

however on a related subject, my Liosomadoras morrowi females are so full of eggs I think something has to happen soon.

Save them for PC Lio challenge # 2

But really Mat that is great, make sure you keep track what is going on and fill us in with a detailed thread, I would be very interested.

Birger

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

mine are

Megalechis thoracata

.
But I have no room for more big tanks right now ;). Together with friend we are starting to bulid our fishroom in my cellar on Saturday I guess it will take about a month or a little bit longer so I won't be first one for sure ;).

Regards.

[grokefish]

Hey,

mine are

Megalechis thoracata

.
But I have no room for more big tanks right now ;). Together with friend we are starting to bulid our fishroom in my cellar on Saturday I guess it will take about a month or a little bit longer so I won't be first one for sure ;).

Regards.

Cool let us know how you get on!

Matt

[Birger]

I now have nine Megalechis thoracata, approximately 3-4 cm

Birger

[hoplo]

Hi all,

Is it too late for me to join in.

Hoplos are my favorite catfish.

Vicky. xx

[MatsP]

Hi all,

Is it too late for me to join in.

Hoplos are my favorite catfish.

Vicky. xx

I'm sure it's not too late, but I'm not sure if we follow Olympic rules - no professionals? ;) I mean, is there any large callichtyidae species you haven't bred already?

[I believe I have some of your Callichthys callichthys that Richard B picked up from "up north" somewhere].

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Mats

[hoplo]

Hi all,

Is it too late for me to join in.

Hoplos are my favorite catfish.

Vicky. xx

I'm sure it's not too late, but I'm not sure if we follow Olympic rules - no professionals? ;) I mean, is there any large callichtyidae species you haven't bred already?

[I believe I have some of your Callichthys callichthys that Richard B picked up from "up north" somewhere].

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Mats

Hi Mats,

If you like i can sit this one out or i can do it along side (my results don't count).

The only ones we haven't breed are
Callichthys serralabium (never seen any)
Dianema longibarbis (haven't got any)
Dianema urostriatum (got 9 but no spawning)
Hoplosternum magdalenae (never seen any)

Nice to hear you may have some of our Callichthys
I bet they are all over England now.

[MatsP]

I think the same rules as my friend who entered a motorcycle race with "racing wets" when the rules said "road legal tyres" (and at that time at least, there were no road-legal racing wets) should apply: No points if you get in the points. [It was quite funny, my friend started in 28th place - it was ABSOLUTELY bucketing down with rain - they put the red flag out to stop the race after four laps - it was supposed to be a 10 lap race. My friend was then in 4th place. It was his second race ever!].

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Mats

[zenyfish]

No points if you get in the points.
Mats

I think Hoplo should be allowed points for any she hasn't bred already ...

Callichthys serralabium (never seen any)
Dianema longibarbis (haven't got any)
Dianema urostriatum (got 9 but no spawning)
Hoplosternum magdalenae (never seen any)

Dianema longibarbis aren't hard to get in the US (I've even seen them in Petsmart). Though I've never seen Callichthys callichthys anywhere.