Historical biogeography of Hypostomus

Post by **Silurus** » 07 Jul 2003, 19:11

Montoya-Burgos, JI. 2003. Historical biogeography of the catfish genus Hypostomus (Siluriformes: Loricariidae), with implications on the diversification of Neotropical ichthyofauna. Molecular Ecology 12: 1855-1868.
I have a pdf of this, if anyone is interested.

Post by **Shane** » 08 Jul 2003, 02:56

CC me too HH. Thanks,
-Shane

Mika · Post by **Mika** » 08 Jul 2003, 06:24

Here too
Thanks

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 08 Jul 2003, 08:58

Can we PLEASE do this sort of thing by PM. All you need to do is click on the PM button on the intial post above and do the same thing.

Jools

coelacanth · Post by **coelacanth** » 08 Jul 2003, 11:50

Jools wrote:Can we PLEASE do this sort of thing by PM. All you need to do is click on the PM button on the intial post above and do the same thing.

Jools

We know, we did it to wind you up....

pturley · Post by **pturley** » 09 Jul 2003, 18:08

Fascinating paper, I have only just began to read it (BTW: Thank you.)

Hoek Hee, do you know of any work underway/plans/discussions/proposals to conduct a similar study on the Loricaria Tribe?

It would be interesting to learn (and correlate with personal theories) the evolution of the reproductive behaviors within this group.

My expectations (on the basis of behavior alone) would be allong these lines:
Leaf-brooding (L. laevescula) derived from substrate spawning (Hemiloricaria)
Lip-brooding (majority of Loricaria and others) derived from Leaf-brooding
Belly-brooding (Guyanian L. cataphrata) derived from Lip-brooding

Do you know of any such studies?
Sincerely,
Paul E. Turley

"Never before in the history of man have so many known so little about so much."
Carl Sagan

Post by **Silurus** » 09 Jul 2003, 19:07

AFAIK, no one has looked at the evolution of brood care in loricariids. Robert Schmidt of Simon's Rock College is doing some work on reproduction in loricariines, but I'm not sure whether it involves the evolution of brood care as well.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 09 Jul 2003, 21:34

pturley wrote:It would be interesting to learn (and correlate with personal theories) the evolution of the reproductive behaviors within this group.

My expectations (on the basis of behavior alone) would be allong these lines:
Leaf-brooding (L. laevescula) derived from substrate spawning (Hemiloricaria)
Lip-brooding (majority of Loricaria and others) derived from Leaf-brooding
Belly-brooding (Guyanian L. cataphrata) derived from Lip-brooding

Do you know of any such studies?

Paul,

Much of this is chewed over in the Evers and Siedel Catfish Atlas Vol.1. I have heard them talk on the subject and they base a lot of interfamily groupings / classification on breeding methods employed by the fish.

Jools

PS Nice to see you on the forum.

pturley · Post by **pturley** » 09 Jul 2003, 22:07

While I have the book and spent considerable hours paging through it, tragically, I cannot read German. When's the English version coming out?

Regarding the forum,GREAT WORK! I was wondering what happened to the Catfish-L listserve since January!

Sincerely,
Paul

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 09 Jul 2003, 23:03

pturley wrote:While I have the book and spent considerable hours paging through it, tragically, I cannot read German. When's the English version coming out?

Don't have a timescale as yet but it being translated into English by an Ecuadorian!

Jools

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