What is that type Panaque?

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 05 Jul 2003, 18:07

This fish has 35 centimeters, at present in Taiwan "Water World" aquarium.

Post by **Shane** » 05 Jul 2003, 18:17

This is an adult of the P. nigrolineatus complex. At present there are a half dozen or so striped Panaque that fall under this classification.
-Shane

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 06 Jul 2003, 14:28

Has this fish's picture or the material may compare to?

This fish's quantity how?

Thanks!

Post by **Shane** » 06 Jul 2003, 17:42

LZ,
All of the information you are looking for is in the Cat-E-Log under P. nigrolineatus. The juvenile fish with the white "window" in the caudal was collected at the holotype location so is as close to the "true" P. nigrolineatus you can get. Black water specimens from the Orinoco lack the white marking in the caudal and have a gold/yellow trim to the caudal. Do you know where the fish in your photos was collected?
-Shane

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 08 Jul 2003, 17:49

Shane,

Consults is under the position fish which you refers:

http://www.planetcatfish.com/ilibrary/l ... /151_f.htm Cat-E-Log under P. nigrolineatus

I certainly did not think they are similar, this fish has Chinese in Taiwan the name, only is I wants to confirm his English status.

You may discover this fish's line is unusual thin, he and "P. nigrolineatus “on the body line is not same, the body color is not same.

This fish's tail has damages, you saw appearance which is he is restored to health.

I thought he is under on Japanese web "オレンジロイヤル" (if does not have the method to see writing "Japanese", please inspect that literal code, alters to him the Japanese.

http://aquafin.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pleco/plecolist.htm

My some picture is goes to the Taiwan aquarium to photograph, I want to record Taiwan to import Loricariidae English name and the picture.

Except the following position in fish and the material are I, other come from the Taiwan aquarium.

My 60cm tank(60*30*35)(cm)

http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/galle ... ry/album63

My 165cm tank(165*45*60)(cm)

http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/galle ... ry/album65

My Loricariidae

http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/galle ... ry/album64

http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/gallery/gallery/

My Loricariidae book

http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/gallery/gallery/

My Loricariidae food

http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/galle ... ry/album67

Post by **Shane** » 09 Jul 2003, 02:59

LZ,
You are correct that ther two fish are different, but until someone describes all of the various striped Panaque they remain "lumped" under P. nigrolineatus. You could call it Panaque cf. nigrolineatus. As far as local classifications.. all Panaque in Venezuela are called panaque and in Colombia they are called cucha real (royal pleco). Panaque is a very old genus because it is found in all the oldest South American river systems (Maracaibo Basin and Magdalena Drainage). That means that Panaque, the genus, has been around and changed very little since before the Andes mountains existed.
-Shane

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 09 Jul 2003, 09:15

Shane,

You knew this fish why and on that Japanese web the picture is different?

Please give me a suggestion!

Thanks!

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 09 Jul 2003, 10:30

Hi!

I have seen some preserved specimens caught in the same river, there were around 10 of them, not one had the same type of pattern, some had broken stripes, some had none, some had spot like line...they seem to show a really variable colouration, at least for the species that I have seen. I can't remember the catching place of these individual, but they seem to grow fairly large ( at least the population that I have seen) and their pattern seems to evoluate as they grow...
Cheers
Yann

Post by **Shane** » 09 Jul 2003, 15:51

LZ,
I am not sure that I understand what it is you want to know. What exactly are you looking for?
-Shane