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Now, how many catfish could you get in HERE
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I reckon 1,200 neon tetras!!!
Or if it was mine...a breeding pair of Pardiglanis tarabinii - yeah!!!!!!
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Cardinals surely
If only...
If only...
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I would like about 100 each of C. hastatus, C. habrosus and C. pygmaeus. To fill out the top areas I think about 200 Ameca Splendens would work.
I'd sure like the chance to try to fill it.
I'd sure like the chance to try to fill it.
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I calculated the volume of this tank at ~2200 US gallons.
Just about right for 50 wild Discus. It is large enough to give them a real chance to act naturally.
The old discus adage of allowing 10 gal per Discus is not enough room to observe their complex social behavior when kept in large groups.
I would put about 100 of my L134 in there and dozen Ancistrus cf. cirroshosus.
It would be a real waste of aquarium real estate to use this for a bunch of tiny Tetras or catfish.
It would easily hold over 2000 Cardinals or about 4000 Corydoras hastatus. At any given time, I have 100+ C. hastatus in one of my 20 L breeding tanks.
Just about right for 50 wild Discus. It is large enough to give them a real chance to act naturally.
The old discus adage of allowing 10 gal per Discus is not enough room to observe their complex social behavior when kept in large groups.
I would put about 100 of my L134 in there and dozen Ancistrus cf. cirroshosus.
It would be a real waste of aquarium real estate to use this for a bunch of tiny Tetras or catfish.
It would easily hold over 2000 Cardinals or about 4000 Corydoras hastatus. At any given time, I have 100+ C. hastatus in one of my 20 L breeding tanks.
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total carnage....I'll bet within a week the tankfloor is buried in a layer of dead dwarf Corydoras....Ameca's are vicious killers when they can harass tiny slowmoving fishI would like about 100 each of C. hastatus, C. habrosus and C. pygmaeus. To fill out the top areas I think about 200 Ameca Splendens would work.
with Endler guppies it'd be a perfect match, but Ameca?? goodeids ain't playing nice. perfect dither fish for the Central American cichlid tank, but not for small peaceful South Americans
and the waterparameters would be all wrong. Ameca's like their water hard, alcalic.
I'd put Potamotrygons in that tank!
and some catfishes ofcourse.
Megalodoras for example.
can't have a big tank without a Megalodoras in it
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Sorry sidguppy, I keep my amecas in a colony breeding situation and they are the most peaceful goodeids that I have. Even new born fry swim with the parents with no help from me and almost no good cover in their tank. The adults don't bother them at all. I don't know where you get info on goodeids but these guys are a joy to keep. On the other hand, my endlers, not guppies, do eat their young and kill off any mystery snails that I have put into their tanks. They are not vicious killers but they won't leave the snails alone and that means the snails don't get to eat. I won't agrue about water preferences but both fish live in the water out of my tap and are healthy active fish. I am sure the book numbers on the two are different but in rpactice they do live in the same water.
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If I read Oldman's reply correctly, he said:
Ameca are the most peacefull Gooids - well, that does not say much for them, does it?
Ameca don't eat their fry - remember, the fry are 20 mm, and fast. I have 2 species of Gooids, which also refrain from eating their fry. I can't consider them as truly peacefull, though
Endlers eat their youngh, and also eat snails - this is new to me, but endler fry are quite tiny. Further, endrlers life quite high in the water, higher than Ameva. Endlres would most likely not be able to find much dwarf Cory fry among the filter pipes Coryman suggested to use
I'm truly sorry to read you don't 'try to provide your corys softis hater (paet in the filter) and your ameca hardish water - using chalcum rocks or so
Ameca are the most peacefull Gooids - well, that does not say much for them, does it?
Ameca don't eat their fry - remember, the fry are 20 mm, and fast. I have 2 species of Gooids, which also refrain from eating their fry. I can't consider them as truly peacefull, though
Endlers eat their youngh, and also eat snails - this is new to me, but endler fry are quite tiny. Further, endrlers life quite high in the water, higher than Ameva. Endlres would most likely not be able to find much dwarf Cory fry among the filter pipes Coryman suggested to use
I'm truly sorry to read you don't 'try to provide your corys softis hater (paet in the filter) and your ameca hardish water - using chalcum rocks or so
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experience, that's where I got itI don't know where you get info on goodeids but these guys are a joy to keep
I found all GFoodeids a joy to keep too, but only with proper tankmates; ie central American cichlids, Poeciliidae, sturdy catfishes
my experience is that even the smallest Goodeids can and do nip the fins of tiny or slowmoving fish. even 3cm Characodon spp were little terrorists, always harassing or trying to harass longfinned species and Corydoras species
I think you're lucky with a friendly colony of Ameca's, but i know this fish to have different behaviour myself.
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Hey, wow,,
Ameca splendens, havnt seen any around hear in the UK, NW; for a good few years now.
My experience years ago was, nasty little things would have ago at anything. (I still think that they are a nice fish, but nasty )
Also apart from the matter of GH, I found that they did best in cool water !!?
coelacanth actually kept them near an open window even on cooler days, (Bolton Nat, Hist; museum, UK)
Ameca splendens, havnt seen any around hear in the UK, NW; for a good few years now.
My experience years ago was, nasty little things would have ago at anything. (I still think that they are a nice fish, but nasty )
Also apart from the matter of GH, I found that they did best in cool water !!?
coelacanth actually kept them near an open window even on cooler days, (Bolton Nat, Hist; museum, UK)
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If you realize the Gooids come from the highland of Mexico - the capital and up north, it is not that hard to understand why they like - in fact, need - cooler temps
25 in summer is OK, if the temp drops at night. The perfect place in summer is, therefore, in a pond, outdoors. It may, however, catch sun if you are as north as I am (53 degrees)
25 in summer is OK, if the temp drops at night. The perfect place in summer is, therefore, in a pond, outdoors. It may, however, catch sun if you are as north as I am (53 degrees)
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Spot on what I'd put in there too...only other fish I can think of woud be a good sized shoal of auchenipterids... maybe...sidguppy wrote: I'd put Potamotrygons in that tank!
and some catfishes ofcourse.
Megalodoras for example.
can't have a big tank without a Megalodoras in it
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yeah, a load of current and 12 mature Ageneiosus of any species that passes 8" would be a great free swimming shoal. definitely.
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I like the idea of a massive community setup....
Can you just imagine how many cories I could fit in there????
Can you just imagine how many cories I could fit in there????