Synodontis ornatipinnis or hybrid?

[Tom]

I believe it is the real deal. I have seen pictures of juvenile ornatapinnis from 20-25 years ago and they all had vermiculated head patterns. I don't believe the Czech hybrids were around back then. I have been a big Syno fan for almost 30 years and I don't know which is worse- hybrid Synos or using the word "hybrid" way too easily.

[Richard B]

Food for thought.....if there were no hybrids, no-one would be using the word hybrid.....

Surely their production & introduction into the hobby is the worst thing ever.....

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

thank you very much for an great information Tom!

Well we just need about 6-7 months to be sure I guess and we will know for sure . If growth rate is also as fast as in other riverine species .

Regards.

[Dinyar]

Re verified pix: Can't really see how this could work in practice. There are reasonable differences of opinion even with preserved specimens, much less with pictures. The catelog is just a tool.

Re

Synodontis brichardi

, that's the fish I thought of after

Synodontis ornatipinnis

when I saw Worton's photo.

Re sidguppy, we tend to think of him as The Phantom of Planet Catfish, not quite real, never actually met AFAIK by a verifiable person, occasionally banned but always the life of the forum.

Re worton's fish, IMO, maybe real, maybe not, but still a nice fish. Like sidgupppy.

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

Re sidguppy, we tend to think of him as The Phantom of Planet Catfish, not quite real, never actually met AFAIK by a verifiable person, occasionally banned but always the life of the forum.

Re worton's fish, IMO, maybe real, maybe not, but still a nice fish. Like sidgupppy.

Funniest description I've ever read )). I hear from Evert van Ammelrooy that Sidguppy is real and well known in Netherlands

[Marc van Arc]

Re sidguppy, we tend to think of him as The Phantom of Planet Catfish, not quite real, never actually met AFAIK by a verifiable person, occasionally banned but always the life of the forum.

I can assure you Dinyar, he is real. See proof below

I had a discussion with Marc on this fish the afternoon (dropped by since I was close)

[sidguppy]

but still a nice fish. Like sidgupppy.

I'll be damned. next thing we know fishes will invent the wheel.
so Frank Zappa was right when he said "There are 3 things that smell like fish. one of them is fish, the other two are growing on you"
I'm a fish.

I keep myself as a hobby
wtf, that's one hell of a sig

I can assure you Dinyar, he is real. See proof below

Got you there, Marc; I sent in my clone


hey Worton, you know evert too? he's king of the hill on Tanganyika, at least in the Netherlands. he's the only person I know that goes each year to the lake to dive and manages to discover new species.
the famous Xenotilapia nigrolabiata 'Red Princess' was discovered by him and first imported by him too.
I spoke him on several occasions as well, he's a fairly laid back guy.

[Dinyar]

Is sidguppy real or a hybrid? Marc seems like a standup guy, but I haven't met him either, so for now, his sighting of the guppy remains to be attested.

I think a good head shot with dentition would help us decide this once and for all. Also, don't forget the humorous process!

[MatsP]

Is sidguppy real or a hybrid? Marc seems like a standup guy, but I haven't met him either, so for now, his sighting of the guppy remains to be attested.

I think a good head shot with dentition would help us decide this once and for all. Also, don't forget the humorous process!

I remember a thread way-back when I only recently had joined the forum:
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... f=2&t=3014

Unfortunately, only two of the several photos in the link are still live links... And Sidguppy's link is not one of those live links.

--
Mats

[Chrysichthys]

I've been trying to upload a pic but imageshack's server is bogged down. Anyway, my three ornatipinnis all have the vermiculated head and they're wild caught to the best of my knowledge. So do all the ones shown in an old copy of the Burgess Atlas, dating back to about when the Soviet tanks were rolling over Czechoslovakia, and nobody there was thinking too hard about hybridizing synos. So I would say Worton[pl]'s fish is genuine.

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

hey Worton, you know evert too? he's king of the hill on Tanganyika, at least in the Netherlands. he's the only person I know that goes each year to the lake to dive and manages to discover new species.
the famous Xenotilapia nigrolabiata 'Red Princess' was discovered by him and first imported by him too.
I spoke him on several occasions as well, he's a fairly laid back guy.

Well, we have a little Tanganyikan geeks meeting in april this year and Evert was a main guest. His speach was fabulous. Lot's of cichlids I haven't even hear of (ok that is not so big deal but part of a speach was about catfishes. I think you might find this topic interesting.