LDA-08 Adult and fry pics

[Fantasticfins]

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fry

female

[Barbie]

Originally when Dale posted this thread, I meant to post pics of my A. claro, just for comparison. I got sidetracked, but we were discussing the fish the other day and decided to resurrect it. My A. claro look quite a bit different than his do. The adult coloration of his is more like the juvenile coloration of mine. Has anyone ever noticed that in their A. claro? Here are a few pictures of mine, but you'll probably have to fix the * in plecos to see it. I either have to get my desktop fixed so I can upload all those pictures or get Jools to fix it so I can post pics ;).

Barbie

[pureplecs]

Barbie,
I have had mine for over a year and a half and they were at least 2"+ when I got them, mine look more like his at this point still, but do not look near as big as yours. Do you know how long it took for yours to get that size or were they already full grown when you got them?

Here is a recent pic of one of mine....

[Barbie]

Mine aren't over 2" SL, if they're even that big. The pictures must just make them appear larger than they really are. I've owned them for 5 years or so now and they were nearly full grown when I got them.

Barbie

[pureplecs]

Sorry, I forgot the "TL" in my post. I've never really pulled out a ruler, just a guestimate but I know they are over two years old... I was always wondering when they were going to start to look like yours but I'm wondering if perhaps they won't??? They don't have much bristles to speak of, perhaps all of mine are females.

[Birger]

Sorry I do not seem to have a full body shot of any males, my dominant and sub-dominant males look similar to pictures 1 and 5 in the Cat-eLog

Ancistrus claro

but a little lighter, but I think that is because of the lighter colored caves, there seems to be a lot of variance even among the same group depending on dominance, males or females, and breeding condition IMO. My breeders all seem about 2 inch SL as well and do not seem to be getting any bigger.

Female

Juvi

Male

[andywoolloo]

beautiful! what is that huge yellow thing in the first pic? An unk veggie? Or is it a yellow wax bean? It looks huge!!

Also Barbie your link is awesome also!

[Birger]

beautiful! what is that huge yellow thing in the first pic? An unk veggie? Or is it a yellow wax bean? It looks huge!!

Just an ordinary green bean, but it also helps to show the size of these fish, that is a breeding female.

Barbie, unfortunately I cannot get your pictures up, just tells me server not found.

Birger

[Barbie]

The link needs to read p l e c o s.com not plecos.com is the problem. I can't fix that, due to the censor that automatically fixes it for me ;). Thanks for the kind words andy. Someday I'll get half the pictures I've taken uploaded, hehe.

Mine are probably under 2" SL, I just honestly hate trying to guess. Dale saw mine when he was out here visiting and thought they looked like a different species. My males are more wide for about the same length, basically.

Barbie

[Birger]

My males are more wide for about the same length, basically.

Yes, that overhead shot is interesting, I will try to get one of my "big" male, but I know he has some freshly hatched little ones so I may wait a little bit.

Birger

[Barbie]

I've ordered more Ancistrus claro and always received the same fish I already have. I'll try to take more pictures of my existing colony and my spares.

Barbie

[Jackster]

The LDA08 I have currently are very colorful. I sold the first group I bought years ago because
they were just to drab. The more recent strain I purchased have a sweet gold/orange tint and
also sport a nice bright orange spot on their tails. The males seem to be much brighter and
have a more contrasting pattern then the females. I also included one of the younger brighter
males with the original group I sold. Hopefully, the two unrelated fish will pair up and kick out
some awesome fry for my buddy and he can sell me some back.

[andywoolloo]

thanks Birger! I thought it was maybe something bigger, an unk veggie that I hadn't tried yet.

So the LDA08 is another form of a bristlenose. Gold Marble BN. And just an ancistrus sp 3 or whatever number is like a non pedigreed BN?

[apistomaster]

thanks Birger! I thought it was maybe something bigger, an unk veggie that I hadn't tried yet.

So the LDA08 is another form of a bristlenose. Gold Marble BN. And just an ancistrus sp 3 or whatever number is like a non pedigreed BN?

LDA-08 is Ancistrus claro, a valid species unlike Ancistrus sp 3.
It is also one of those plecos I just have to get pretty soon. Barbie, are you reading this? I think I can afford some now since I am not actively trying to collect any more Hypancistrus for the time being. I'm sure we will be talking about making the arrangement soon.

[Fantasticfins]

These are the same fish I showed photos of when I started this thread. Now they've decided to show gold spotting. I would love to know what people think these really are. This color came after I stopped using softer water. I now have them in straight tap water(ph7.5 and moderately hard Gh and Kh).

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Female

[apistomaster]

They look like the Ancistrus claro I have seen at Barbie's.
Also sounds like very similar water conditions.
pH 7.4, KH ~6 GH ~7 and TDS ~350 ppm.

[Barbie]

They look quite a bit different than my adults though, and his have been spawning for a while. Dale agreed with me when he was here months ago that they were two different species, but we don't know how to tell WHAT. I'm hoping I can actually get time to get more pictures of my fish in the next week or two. Now that I'm done entertaining half the free world with my pool and cooking, I just have the fish club bbq that I volunteered to host on the 10th (yes, I got dropped on my head as a baby or something!). Someday I'm actually going to get caught up, I swear!

Dale can you tear the heck out of your tank and catch those fish and take pics from above? They're looking closer to mine now, but still not quite the same. I guess it could be something as minor as locational variation.

Barbie

[apistomaster]

Hi Barbie,
I was always struck by the bright gold dots my juveniles had but as you say, could be different populations vary in color. This makes more sense to me, that they could represent different populations of the same species. I don't think there is much evidence point to the existence of several dwarf Ancistrus pp. Not against that if I am wrong because as handy as the common Ancistrus sp 3 is, it still grows a little large for a 20 Long or smaller aquariums and I just like dwarf species of plecos and Corydoras or Aspidoras. Nano tanks and fish have a special charm of their own and when all the fish are in proportion to one another and their tanks then the results are just that much more appealing.

[CoryLoachFreak]

How are you doing my friend Dale? I took a pic of three of my 2" little ones. Not the greatest pics, but oh well.








Jeff
CoryLoachFreak

[Birger]

Finally moved their tank and got overhead pictures of my Ancistrus claro which have been breeding regularly and are a whole 2 inches long