ID this white otocinclus

MiguelPeru · Post by **MiguelPeru** » 30 Jun 2008, 16:14

Hello guys,
please help me to identificate this otocinclus.
Jewel could you let me know your email address?

loachy_406 · Post by **loachy_406** » 30 Jun 2008, 16:50

The only Oto that he looks vaguely like is , but it's still not at all the same.

Richard B · Post by **Richard B** » 30 Jun 2008, 16:53

could it be ?

loachy_406 · Post by **loachy_406** » 30 Jun 2008, 16:55

Looks like a good match to me, but I'm far from anywhere near an expert on this subject.

MiguelPeru · Post by **MiguelPeru** » 30 Jun 2008, 18:18

thank you for your help.
I would say it is different than Hypoptopoma sp(4), but of course they looks similar. But not the same.
Thank you

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 30 Jun 2008, 23:29

Hi!!

For me this is more of an undescribed species of the genus Nannoptopoma!!
Cheers
Yann

Daragh · Post by **Daragh** » 01 Jul 2008, 00:22

Can't help with the id, but it is a stunning little fish. Would love to see these available.

kim m · Post by **kim m** » 01 Jul 2008, 05:42

They are pretty fish. I know a group of people in Norway thet went and collected these in Peru last year.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 01 Jul 2008, 08:28

I am pretty sure this is a stressed one of these:

Jools

Mike_Noren · Post by **Mike_Noren** » 01 Jul 2008, 12:56

I have only seen Nannoptopoma sp. "Peru" dead, but in death they had the same colors as in life, just paler.

Especially the change from uniformly colored head to striped head seems to me to be unlikely to be due to stress; unless you know that this species can indeed change color like this I'd be more inclined to think this is a separate and new Nannoptopoma.

loachy_406 · Post by **loachy_406** » 01 Jul 2008, 20:49

MiguelPeru wrote:Jewel could you let me know your email address?

Jools' PC email is webmaster@planetcatfish.com

I agree with Mike on the stripes appearing on the head during stress. It seems strange that this could happen, so I also think it may be a new species.

MiguelPeru · Post by **MiguelPeru** » 02 Jul 2008, 17:41

I am pretty sure this is a stressed one of these: Nannoptopoma sp`peru`

Jools

Dear Jools,
I think you are wrong. The fish you are talking about it is VERY DIFFERENT COLORATION, also that fish comes from Rio Tigre at Iquitos.
The fish I posted it is surely a Nannoptopoma sp. but this one comes from Tarapoto place. VERY far away from Iquitos and it different geographical area. It is not stressed one, the fish always show that colour, even in the tanks of my friends in other countries.

Thanks

Miguel

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 02 Jul 2008, 18:14

MiguelPeru wrote:I think you are wrong.

Yeah, well it wouldn't be the first time. Look forward to seeing the fish in aquarium stores to have a look at it. I still don't see much of a difference, and I don't think anyone can make a call on it until both (or one) of the species is described...

How do you mean different geography? Just that the places are far apart, or that they are different biotopes?

Jools

Bas Pels · Post by **Bas Pels** » 02 Jul 2008, 18:56

I do agree Miguel should export some of these

I believe I know a nice place, somewhere in NL

Post by **Janne** » 02 Jul 2008, 20:14

I think and agree with all of you thinking this is a "new species" of Nannoptopoma, I would treat it as "new" as long no one can prove it's anything else. Better to use another name in the trade then use the same as N. sp "peru" which just will confuse us.

Janne

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 03 Jul 2008, 21:49

Hi!!

I have seen alive this species since early last year... very thinny little guys, all I had seen were not exceeeding the 3cm TL!!!
A possible name for the Cat elog would be Nannoptopoma sp (Peru 2) or (white) as they are sold as this...
Cheers
Yann

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 04 Jul 2008, 08:42

Well, I'll put it in as a new entry in the cat-elog. Nice to be wrong and get a new species out of it.

I quite favour Nannoptopoma sp. "Peru II" rather than Nannoptopoma sp. "white". Maybe Nannoptopoma "Peru white"... Decisions, decisions. What's it being exported as?

Jools

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 04 Jul 2008, 15:27

Jools

Martin S · Post by **Martin S** » 04 Jul 2008, 16:26

Except I get a page no found

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 04 Jul 2008, 16:36

Martin S wrote:Except I get a page no found

Fixed now, I just need to move over the second image as well.

Jools

loachy_406 · Post by **loachy_406** » 04 Jul 2008, 18:19

Miguel, can you send in your pictures to webmaster@planetcatfish.com? I'm sure Jools will appreciate it very much. http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/pp_contribute.php

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 04 Jul 2008, 18:39

loachy_406 wrote:Miguel, can you send in your pictures to webmaster@planetcatfish.com? I'm sure Jools will appreciate it very much. http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/pp_contribute.php

Yup, indeed, but Yann already supplied some... Getting some data in too would be good.

Jools

loachy_406 · Post by **loachy_406** » 04 Jul 2008, 18:49

The more, the merrier, the better!

I'm sure Miguel can get some data when he's kept them and got to know them. Maybe even breeding if we're extemely lucky!

Birger Amundsen · Post by **Birger Amundsen** » 04 Jul 2008, 21:29

A friend of mine brought home some of them from one of his trips to Peru. Someone bid him a good price on all, so I didn`t get any. They are quite difficult to keep, as I`w heard from the one who bought them.
If I`m not wrong, they go by the name of Otocinclus "Pin" in Peru?

MiguelPeru · Post by **MiguelPeru** » 07 Jul 2008, 18:41

Jools wrote:
Nannoptopoma sp`peru_white`

Jools

I thought you were going to use the my pictures

loachy_406 · Post by **loachy_406** » 07 Jul 2008, 18:46

He might eventually. The Mighty Jools has lots* to do and everything takes time.

*lots really meaning tonnes

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 08 Jul 2008, 02:16

Hi Miguel!!!

You can still send your pictures to Jools, he will be happy to put them onlline...
Just proceed as it has been said twice in the topic...
Cheers
Yann

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