Am I a L104?

Fishaliciousfish · Post by **Fishaliciousfish** » 25 May 2008, 00:52

I bought some plants at the LFS today and got the fright of my life when I put the plants in the water and this little guy came shooting out of one of them...I have never had an L number before and have no experience with them at all...always time for a first

I have been spending hours looking at L foto's and think it may be the L104 ... I am just looking for confirmation from a pro

Will he eat my plants? <looks at her heavy planted tank in fear

> LOL

Fishaliciousfish · Post by **Fishaliciousfish** » 25 May 2008, 13:40

Nobody??

Would more foto's help?

Fishaliciousfish · Post by **Fishaliciousfish** » 25 May 2008, 13:46

aledk85 · Post by **aledk85** » 25 May 2008, 13:49

yes

i think that is a panaque maccus l104 just like my

Joren56 · Post by **Joren56** » 25 May 2008, 14:13

aledk85 wrote:yes i think that is a panaque maccus l104 just like my

I personally don't agree with this , I bet on L002 , L169 or L397 but wich of those 3 it exactly is , is something for the more experienced loraciidlovers on the forum.

Also if a P.maccus has stress-colors like this one it should be whole yellowish or the body would also be covered with big brown stripes if it is catch-stressed.

aledk85 · Post by **aledk85** » 25 May 2008, 15:02

mmmmmmmmm....joren i think you'r right and if is it, i bet l397 but i'm not sure...

i agree with you about the stress but i don't know in this case,sometimes for stress one of my plecostomus sp. change color from gold in very red and really make me so confused for classified this species...
peace

pLaurent1251 · Post by **pLaurent1251** » 25 May 2008, 15:11

I put the plants in the water and this little guy came shooting out of one of them

How lucky...the only thing I ever get in my plants is duckweed or snails.

His belly looks kinda hollow. I"m sure he'll appreciate a good feed.

DutchFry · Post by **DutchFry** » 25 May 2008, 16:10

you've got a

it prefers wood and additional vegetables like courgette, if you feed it well, it's not gonna eat your plants.

Fishaliciousfish · Post by **Fishaliciousfish** » 25 May 2008, 16:56

Wow confusing... different answers LOL Maybe when he/she fattens up a bit it will be easier

As long as it is not a L169 seeing the size it can get

Even though it is in a 600 Liter tank I think even that maybe too small for a L169.

From the answers I can see that every agree's it is a Panaque so at least I know what to feed it for sure. It has found a piece of wood which is it's fave place but which is luckily at the front of the tank so I can check on it's progress. I fed it algae tablets last night but will go out and get some courgette tomorrow.

If anyone can identify it for sure in the meantime that would be great

aledk85 · Post by **aledk85** » 25 May 2008, 17:02

i feed my panaque with chips from novo pleco jbl and bloodworms also if i have a lot of wood in my tank,i think is the best solution for me....
but aniway panaque or not is very beauty
god luck

peace

Fishaliciousfish · Post by **Fishaliciousfish** » 25 May 2008, 17:07

I agree he does not look too healthy but these foto's were taken 5 minutes after it being released into the tank and before that it was wrapped up and bagged with some plants for about 1 hour and hardly any water.... there are 5 big pieces of wood in the tank (3 different types) so I hope he/she picks up soon. I will get more pics after it has gained some weight.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 25 May 2008, 19:00

I would also say this fish is a nicely marked juvenile . The pattern on the head is consistent with this species, and not the other Panaque L numbers mentioned.

As long as it is not a L169 seeing the size it can get Even though it is in a 600 Liter tank I think even that maybe too small for a L169.

You must be confused. gets to 3-4 inches.

Fishaliciousfish · Post by **Fishaliciousfish** » 25 May 2008, 19:26

Thanks Racoll... can you tell I'm blonde and new to L numbers

hehehehehe

Thank you very much for the confirmation

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 26 May 2008, 12:40

I'd say too that it's likely you have , still in juvenile colouring. The only way to REALLY tell is to let it grow up a bit and ask again - some fish change more than others, and some of the fish listed aren't commonly seen as juveniles (becuase they are not bred in captivity). But from a "odds" perspective, P. maccus is a safe bet, the others are much more of a long-shot.

Like pLaurent, all I've ever got free with my plants are snails - and none of the nicer variety either.

--
Mats

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 26 May 2008, 12:53

Like pLaurent, all I've ever got free with my plants are snails - and none of the nicer variety either.

I once got a tiny common pleco "free" with some plants, but sadly not a nice little dwarf Panaque.

Carp37 · Post by **Carp37** » 29 May 2008, 12:59

Just get ready to do LOTS of gravel vacs... I've got 2 Panaque maccus, I never see them eat bogwood, but twice a week I do a gravel vac and the amount of wood waste they produce is scarcely credible for such small (2-2.3" SL) fish!

Fishaliciousfish · Post by **Fishaliciousfish** » 29 May 2008, 13:48

I have never seen the little guy eat any wood or even sit on it at all...he seems to be very keen on the algae on the backing wall and stones.. I have even put zuchinni in twice which he left untouched. Thanks for the tip though..will extra check the tank when cleaning this weekend.

DutchFry · Post by **DutchFry** » 30 May 2008, 10:31

i think you have a very young fish. in time he will eat more of the wood!

aledk85 · Post by **aledk85** » 30 May 2008, 11:54

my panaque is very active and i can see that eat everything...maybe yours its just a different "personality" more frightened

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