Can someone ID these two pleco's i got today?

[macantley]

i picked up two pleco's at the local pet store, i think ones a clown pleco, the other could be a common, but he has a massive fin on his back and is mostly black/white

i paid $10 for both of them, im hoping the large one cleans my tank up well

matthew

[Suckermouth]

Pterygoplichthys disjunctivus

, owing to the fact the belly has vermiculations rather than primarily spots, which would indicate

Pterygoplichthys pardalis

.

At first glance, the second fish appears to be

Panaque maccus

.

[MatsP]

Pterygoplichthys disjunctivus

, owing to the fact the belly has vermiculations rather than primarily spots, which would indicate

Pterygoplichthys pardalis

.

At first glance, the second fish appears to be

Panaque maccus

.

I'm with Suckermouth on the first fish, but the second I would call

Panaque sp(L204)

- not 100% sure, but 99.5%. The doubt comes from the fact that the fish may be unnaturally contrasty from some camera/photoshop work - but if the photo is a true representation of a very dark brown fish with straight yellowish lines, then I would say it's L204.

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Mats

[racoll]

Hmmm. I would agree with Suckermouth I think Mats.

The colours seem wrong for L204, so I reckon its a very nicely marked P. maccus, but as always some more photos will help......

[Stuey]

I would agree with MatsP on the wee fella being a young L204
Certainly looks identical to the juveniles I have had in the past, right down to what we can see of the shape of the head

[racoll]

In these situations we should have a small wager......

[Bas Pels]

Time to ask the Brasilian customs

[Janne]

Time to ask the Brasilian customs

That would be unfare to ask them about species that are exported from Colombia or from Asia, better to ask the customs in Netherlands that needs to know all existing species of fishes in the world

I think the second fish could be a Panaque maccus, it looks quite small and youngsters is very similar to L204 up to 4-5 cm TL.

Janne

[macantley]

ill try to get more pictures, fish arent really too picture friendly.


the small fish is about 1-1.5" long give or take alittle, the large one is probably 8-10" long.

i was told the little guy was a baby.

matthew

[MatsP]

ill try to get more pictures, fish arent really too picture friendly.


the small fish is about 1-1.5" long give or take alittle, the large one is probably 8-10" long.

i was told the little guy was a baby.

matthew

If the little one is that small, I'll change my mind to P. maccus too.

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Mats

[apistomaster]

Does the debated fish have a lyre tail with long filamentous extensions? If yes, then L204 is more likely than Panaque maccus.

[Janne]

If the fish have a lyretail dont exclude P maccus because youngsters at this size ~3 cm of both species have a lyreshaped caudalfin with short filaments.



Janne

[Plecofanatic1989]

I'm all for Panaque maccus. It looks like mine when they were youngsters. And as for the lyretail I believe all of my P. maccus have lyretails... and I'm 100% on my identification of the ones I own.
Good luck macantley.
Josh