Is this one L147???
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Is this one L147???
hi guys,
first i'd like to say, you people did a great job on the lay out of this forum!
i have a question for you guys. a friend of mine bought a nice suckermouth catfish for 8 euro's, the shop named it Panaque but i don't think it is a panaque, i think it's a peckoltia, and more specified i think it's peckoltia sp. L147: http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/sp ... ies_id=802
do you agree? if not, what's the name of this fish?
(sorry for the poor quality of the photo)
thanks in advance!
first i'd like to say, you people did a great job on the lay out of this forum!
i have a question for you guys. a friend of mine bought a nice suckermouth catfish for 8 euro's, the shop named it Panaque but i don't think it is a panaque, i think it's a peckoltia, and more specified i think it's peckoltia sp. L147: http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/sp ... ies_id=802
do you agree? if not, what's the name of this fish?
(sorry for the poor quality of the photo)
thanks in advance!
Greetings, Tim
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thanks for the quick reply Jools!
i'm a bit confused now, because of the dotted pattern this fish shows. i always thought that the panaque maccus had more of a striped pattern on the head? this fish clearly has small dots on the head...
are you sure?
i'm a bit confused now, because of the dotted pattern this fish shows. i always thought that the panaque maccus had more of a striped pattern on the head? this fish clearly has small dots on the head...
are you sure?
Greetings, Tim
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I would agree with L147, but a young one that hasn't developed the typical spotted pattern on the back of the body.
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thank you for the reply!
i forgot to tell you guys, the fish is 5 till 6 cm now, that's like 2 and a bit inches?
any other ideas? all of the input is very welcome
my second best guess is peckoltia sp. L387
but i might be on the wrong track, so if you think differently let me know please
[Mod edit: Use proper CLOG tags -- Mats]
i forgot to tell you guys, the fish is 5 till 6 cm now, that's like 2 and a bit inches?
any other ideas? all of the input is very welcome
my second best guess is peckoltia sp. L387
but i might be on the wrong track, so if you think differently let me know please
[Mod edit: Use proper CLOG tags -- Mats]
Greetings, Tim
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I am not sure as the fish is stressed and we don't have a picture of the mouth to show the teeth. However, I do not see a clearly spotted head pattern that I would expect to see in , I see a broken, dappled patterning more akin to an adult female and consistent with the size of your fish.DutchFry wrote:i'm a bit confused now, because of the dotted pattern this fish shows. i always thought that the panaque maccus had more of a striped pattern on the head? this fish clearly has small dots on the head...
are you sure?
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Your fish looks a lot like a young L147 Take a look at the second picture in the second row (sorry, don't know how to attach links).
I also doubt that you could get a L387 for 8 Euros.
I also doubt that you could get a L387 for 8 Euros.
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thanks again.
i will ask this friend of mine if he can make a photo close up of the mouth
to be continued...
i will ask this friend of mine if he can make a photo close up of the mouth
to be continued...
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I have a couple L127. It looks kinda like one of those. Just a thought. Nice fish!
Good luck,
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Re: Is this one L147???
How about taking another photo when he/she has had a few days to get comfortable? That way, the ID may be easier. I agree the young L-147's can change colour by the week. This was from at least a year ago, maybe longer:
Her colouration now is different. The orange stripes have just about merged with the brown. She's also grown about an 1" in a year and the odontodes are quite striking. I'm still not sure if she is she or he. You've got yourself a beautiful fish, any which way!
Amanda
Her colouration now is different. The orange stripes have just about merged with the brown. She's also grown about an 1" in a year and the odontodes are quite striking. I'm still not sure if she is she or he. You've got yourself a beautiful fish, any which way!
Amanda
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thanks for the input.
as i said earlier on, this fish is not mine. it swims in Eindhoven in a tank of a friend of mine.
i asked him if he could take more pictures, but he didn't reply.
when i get more pictures, i will post them here!
as i said earlier on, this fish is not mine. it swims in Eindhoven in a tank of a friend of mine.
i asked him if he could take more pictures, but he didn't reply.
when i get more pictures, i will post them here!
Greetings, Tim
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I recieved some more pictures! here they are:
So, what's the scientific name of this handsome pl*c?
So, what's the scientific name of this handsome pl*c?
Greetings, Tim
Re: Is this one L147???
Technically, it doesn't have a 'sientific name' other than Peckoltia sp. as it has not been characterized and the results published in a recognized journal. But it continues to look like a young L147. Let's see what it looks like in 6-12 months when it has put on some growth.
HTH
HTH
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It still looks like a to me because of the odontodal growth in fish a fish of this size. I still don't see the clear head spotting pattern I would associate with at this size. What makes you think it's a ?
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you're absolutely right Jools!
the odontodes on the pectoral fins and the back half of the body are very panaque-like indeed
the 'spotted pattern' on the head seems more like a broken striped pattern, so this also points to panaque. the first pictures made me think of peckoltia, because of this 'spotted pattern'. the new pictures that i just recieved confirms the idea of panaque maccus. the small, spoon shaped mouth and the odontodal growth on the fish, must be panaque:
he/she (i think he) still looks a bit stressed, it's now four days in the tank. when it gets used to it's surroundings, it probably will show more colouration.
thanks a lot!!!
the odontodes on the pectoral fins and the back half of the body are very panaque-like indeed
the 'spotted pattern' on the head seems more like a broken striped pattern, so this also points to panaque. the first pictures made me think of peckoltia, because of this 'spotted pattern'. the new pictures that i just recieved confirms the idea of panaque maccus. the small, spoon shaped mouth and the odontodal growth on the fish, must be panaque:
he/she (i think he) still looks a bit stressed, it's now four days in the tank. when it gets used to it's surroundings, it probably will show more colouration.
thanks a lot!!!
Greetings, Tim