Breeding Hemiancistrus subviridis

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 10 Dec 2007, 15:44

I´m extatic

Yesterday I saw a couple of Hemis in one of the caves. I couldn´t dare to believe that there was something going on. Today there was just one of the smaller males in the cave, and he was doing the "moves". I tried to slightly turn the cave so that I could see inside, and that scared the male off. I took the clutch and placed it in a guppy breeding box with an airstone.

The raining season hadn´t even started yet. I fed them normal/large quantities of canned peas, salmon pellets, shrimp pellets and bloodworms. Strictly no water change. Also added salt and gibsen to elevate conductivity and gh. Four days ago my heater failed, and the water have gotten colder. It sank from 28 degrees to 26.5 degrees.

I usually let the male take care of the eggs. What do I do now?

Cheers

Daragh · Post by **Daragh** » 10 Dec 2007, 16:12

Fantastic, congratulations, looking forward to seeing how things develop for you...

Brilliant thread.

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 10 Dec 2007, 16:25

Thank you:)

My dream is to fill my 720 liter tank with these wonderful fish.

Post by **Shane** » 10 Dec 2007, 16:30

I usually let the male take care of the eggs. What do I do now?

Outstanding work! First place the eggs in a container within the parent's tank. I like to use a breeders net trap of the type sold for livebearers. Place an air stone near (not on) the eggs to simulate the male fanning water over then. Provided the main tank has good water quality (and I am sure it does) you do not need to ad any medications.
-Shane
PS I have not used the above method with the same spp, but have used it with success with 3-4 different Ancistrus spp.

Here are some different type of products available. I use the Lee's Net Breeder, but any of these should work.
http://www.aquariumguys.com/refugiums.html

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 10 Dec 2007, 16:51

Wow! Good luck!

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Mats

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 10 Dec 2007, 17:32

Thanks for the advice, Shane

Thank you Mats

Should I add snails?

Kostas · Post by **Kostas** » 10 Dec 2007, 17:44

Big congratulations Haavard!!!

You did it!!!You setted up a tank good enough for them to breed

I wish to follow your example soon

I would say that it would be a bit risky adding snails at the egg stage...Its safer to add them after all eggs have hatched although there is no absolut need for them...

Good luck with the eggs!

Post by **Shane** » 10 Dec 2007, 17:54

I agree with Kostas. Skip the snails.
-Shane

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 10 Dec 2007, 18:29

How long before I can see if the eggs are fertilized?

It is really weird about the male who guarded the eggs... He is rather small.

I believe this is the male. He is only 12cm tl. (earlier photo). On the other hand I have had him for about 2 years and 8 moths, so he is no juvenile.

jopbgon · Post by **jopbgon** » 10 Dec 2007, 18:49

Congrats bro!!!!!!

Erlend D Bertelsen · Post by **Erlend D Bertelsen** » 10 Dec 2007, 20:24

Congratulations Haavard.

That was fast. I hope you have success with the eggs.

E

husky_jim · Post by **husky_jim** » 11 Dec 2007, 09:12

Hi Haavard!

Congrads of the impressive news!

Can't wait till your next update!!!!

cmstwc · Post by **cmstwc** » 11 Dec 2007, 10:22

Wow! Congratulations!!!! Is this the first time in history?

firenzenz · Post by **firenzenz** » 11 Dec 2007, 10:44

Dude!!!

How cool is that- Well done!

Richard B · Post by **Richard B** » 11 Dec 2007, 12:31

Excellent work Haavard! Well done -let's just hope it becomes a regular occurrance (maybe with other individuals?)

Keep us updated with your progress

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 11 Dec 2007, 14:51

Thank you guys

The eggs are still looking fine.

cmstwc wrote:Wow! Congratulations!!!! Is this the first time in history?

H. subviridis has been bred twice by another norwegian.

Richard B wrote:let's just hope it becomes a regular occurrance (maybe with other individuals?)

I believe it will be a regular occurance. Yesterday I startet a rainy season in the tank. From now on I will try to flokk breed the fish in the main tank without intervension. The filtersystems are specially constructed for this purpose.

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 11 Dec 2007, 20:23

A small update... The eggs are about the same. Nothing rotting or molding as far as I can see. Are the white ghostly things the embryos?

jopbgon · Post by **jopbgon** » 12 Dec 2007, 14:49

Nice!!!

can't wait to see the babies

drd · Post by **drd** » 12 Dec 2007, 16:26

Hi Harvaard !

This is fantastic news for any L200 lover out there.
I am thrilled to follow your thread about yours because i have a couple of them myself.
Maybe not the biggest but they are about 12-14 cm big.
How big was the female mother of this bunch of eggs ?

I belive that i have one of each here at least.

They are in my 720 litre tank with my breeding group of L333´s.

The L333´s are getting about 80 or so bigger every month now, soon i have to get rid of halv of my youngsters i belive because they are so many now that i hardly have room for them all.

Your eggpic is almost as nice as my sturisoma eggpic

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 12 Dec 2007, 17:06

drd wrote:Your eggpic is almost as nice as my sturisoma eggpic

Yeah! I will have to do something about that

I shall mount my flashlamps over the eggs in an attempt to produce something better:D

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 12 Dec 2007, 18:29

Todays update. I can see them moving, and a couple of them has their tails outside their egg.

Bas Pels · Post by **Bas Pels** » 12 Dec 2007, 19:08

I'm really looking forward to the next pic of the buch of grapes

Too bad Norway is so far away, I somehow get the idea it will be possible to get L200 -F! next summer over there

grokefish · Post by **grokefish** » 12 Dec 2007, 19:31

That is really cool Haavard I'm quite speechless.
It's like that movie "Feilds of dreams"
"Build it and they will come."
You havn't got Kevin Costner hiding about the place have you?
Matt

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 12 Dec 2007, 20:25

Would anyone mind very much if I split this thread into one about the breeding, and the other being the part about the tank design? It's quite long already, being about 7 pages of posts, and I'm sure (hope so) that it's going to continue about the breeding effort for some further time.

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Mats

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 12 Dec 2007, 21:54

Good idea, Mats

Split it please

drd wrote: Maybe not the biggest but they are about 12-14 cm big.
How big was the female mother of this bunch of eggs ?

The male(father) is 12cm. My largest female is 13cm, but I suspect one of the smaller females is responsible for the egglaying. I really don´t know. I can see the male is in the "Check out my beautiful cave" stance again.

oscar300 · Post by **oscar300** » 13 Dec 2007, 10:27

WOW

Saw your originl thread and thought it was ambitious........Well done you!!!

Mike_Noren · Post by **Mike_Noren** » 13 Dec 2007, 17:36

Haavard Stoere wrote:Are the white ghostly things the embryos?

Yes.

AndreasB · Post by **AndreasB** » 13 Dec 2007, 19:26

Congratulation, this is just amazing

I hope you get some more eggs.

Andreas

Haavard Stoere · Post by **Haavard Stoere** » 13 Dec 2007, 23:39

They all died today.

jopbgon · Post by **jopbgon** » 13 Dec 2007, 23:52

Haavard Stoere wrote:They all died today.

Oh no man that sucks

....but don't worry the first spawn is the hardest, I know the will keep breeding

, now figure out what could get wrong, personally the next time I will let the parents to take care of them