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need a positive ID...was labeled as hammerhead cat at the LFS.

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where's Marc when we need him??? :?

ageniosis of some type - check cat-e-log or wait for marc to post! :D
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This is the species that Walsh (1990) lists as Ageneiosus n. sp. and for which some of the pictures in the Cat-eLog exist under . I am not sure if this species was ever formally named.
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that looks right, i think thats it :)
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Richard B wrote:where's Marc when we need him???
I was asleep, dreaming of the Tetranematichthys at Pier's :wink:.
Besides, I'm wasn't really needed as 2 members gave a correct ID.
Hammerhead catfish.....makes you wonder how they would call Pangasius spp.
Asian hammerheads??

@HH: what makes you doubt that this isn't the real A. vittatus?
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Silurus wrote:This is the species that Walsh (1990) lists as Ageneiosus n. sp. and for which some of the pictures in the Cat-eLog exist under . I am not sure if this species was ever formally named.
What I've found is that Walsh's name is mentioned in the Checklist of Catfishes (Ferraris) under A. vittatus with regard to the distribution of that species (page 70; last entry of Ageneiosus).

(Sorry, I'm not able to copy/paste that part).
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marc - i mentioned in a different thread, that i was at Pier a day too early :cry:

I could've got some good photos or even maybe been tempted...... but alas it was not meant to be.
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In Walsh's revision of Ageneiosus, Ageneiosus n. sp. is distinguished from A. vittatus by color pattern, differences in number of ribs, vertebrae, branched pectoral fin rays, and head and body shape. The distribution as listed in Ferraris (2007) is for the real A. vittatus as treated in Walsh (1990).
So it seems that this fish remains unnamed.
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Silurus wrote:In Walsh's revision of Ageneiosus
Do you by any chance have a PDF of this paper?
Silurus wrote:So it seems that this fish remains unnamed.
My tanks are inhabited by more and more undescribed species :? :wink:
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Richard B wrote:marc - i mentioned in a different thread, that i was at Pier a day too early
Yes, I noticed. That's really too bad.
Let's hope Neil has mercy on us and posts some nice pix himself.
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yes indeed, that would be good :)
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Silurus wrote:In Walsh's revision of Ageneiosus
I ordered this dissertation and it arrived today. 370 pages! I've got some reading to do :wink:
Expect a review - within a year or so.
Thanks to HH for providing the necessary ordering details.
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Expect a review - within a year or so.
I don't think anybody writes a review for a dissertation. A dissertation is an academic exercise (and not meant to be published like a book), very much like a scientific paper. Nobody writes a review for a scientific paper.
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Silurus wrote:
Expect a review - within a year or so.
I don't think anybody writes a review for a dissertation.
In that case I will certainly not be the first one. Thanks for pointing that out.

Btw: I have to wait until tomorrow to have a peek. The "book" was unbound, so the first thing I did was to make a real book of it by means of synthetic resin adhesive. It was dry within 30 minutes, but I was advised to let it be for at least 12 hours. That's going to be a surprise tomorrow.
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